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In Western pedagogy, counterpoint is taught through a system in which students progress through several "species" of increasing complexity.

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Fourth species counterpoint treating fourth

I'm so confused why does in fux book he treats the P4 as a consonance and leaps from it instead of resolving it down to a third( measure 7 ) Also how common is going above the cantuse firmus in ...
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moving into parallel compound intervals counterpoint

in strict counterpoint and i'm talking about fux's book is having 2 parallel perfect intervals with contrary motion still wrong? because in fux book only contrary and oblique motion are acceptable for ...
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Problem with modal counterpoint

I'm new to counterpoint and this time i tried challenging myself by writing a counterpoint in second species in phrygian E I'm sure there are problems with my counterpoint and wanted to see if anyone ...
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Counterpoint question: "2 quarter notes at the beginning of the measure cause the melody to lag." Fux Palestrina Counterpoint

A question that has been nagging me for a long time regarding counterpoint is the idea of avoiding "2 quarters at the beginning of the measure as the melody tends to lag." as per Johann Fux. ...
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In Organum and Species Counterpoint why is one of the voices always in whole notes?

Edit: It was pointed out to me that counterpoint spawned from the Organum style of music. For more context, here’s information from two sources I just read. “Two styles of Organum existed during this ...
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writing counterpoint based on intervals vs scale degrees

When you start writing counterpoint they tell you what intervals you can use and how to use them but after learning harmony I think in scale degrees. I know what soprano note might work best with ...
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What does this counterpoint rule mean?

I'm using a Musescore extension called Counterpoint Analyzer 0.4, and I am not sure what one of the warning messages refers to. Please see numbers 1 and 2 in the following: Any thoughts as to what ...
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First Species of Counterpoint rule involving the next to last bar

In Alfred Mann's The Study of Counterpoint, there is a passage that explains a rule basically restricting the interval of the last bar to a minor third if the cantus firmus is in a lower register, or ...
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Rule on doubling the second rather than the fourth when using ligatures

I was going through the ligatures in 4 parts exercises from Fux's Gradus. On page 133, Aloys says, "Finally, in the sixth measure of the same example the fourth is doubled, although as a rule one ...
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How are 4th and 2nd species counterpoint combined?

I've gone through all five species of Fuxian counterpoint, and I'm moving into combined species. I remember hearing that one of the most important forms of combined species is the combination of ...
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what are the options for the penultimate measure in the 3rd species counterpoint

Mr. Fux says: Then, Mr. Fux does: In Gradus ad Parnassum (Mann's translation). Is the last one a mistake? There's nothing written in the book that it's a mistake.
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what was a skip according to fux and what is it in general

I wonder what a skip actually is for Fux. Because, in Gradus he says a reversal is needed after a skip but then he does something like that: To clarify, I've no problem with how it sounds, it sounds ...
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Question on the definition of a dissonant passing/neighbor tone?

I am currently trying to teach myself counterpoint following Jacob Gran's videos. When I was analyzing my exercises today, I thought of this question. If the first two notes of a dissonant neighbor(or ...
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How is 2nd and 3rd species in 4 part supposed to look like? How do I do it?

If second species is the 1st pic (the one with half notes) and 3rd species is the 2nd pic, how do i do that in 4 part writing? Like both...combined? "2nd and 3rd species in 4 parts". Im not ...
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Is the treatment of accented 5ths and octaves in 3rd species counterpoint the same as between soprano and bass in 4 part writing?

Here in this image from my textbook "Harmony and voice leading" there are several very useful examples of accented and unaccented octaves and 5ths in third species Counterpoint. It shows ...
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