Timeline for Help us identify new roles for community members
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| Mar 11, 2023 at 22:16 | history | edited | NoDataDumpNoContribution | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Mar 7, 2023 at 2:10 | history | edited | V2Blast | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Mar 6, 2023 at 18:51 | comment | added | SpencerG StaffMod | @uhoh Definitely not buried. We just came away from that meeting with more questions that we need to figure out answers to. Something that is holding us back for the time being is that we are still figuring out the FY24 agenda for the community team, so hence the vague statement with no real timeline. | |
| Mar 6, 2023 at 16:53 | comment | added | uhoh | "Update 2...we determined that we need to do further exploration and research into these proposed roles before we can consider a potential fit" sounds like it could be a euphemism for "buried it" but hopefully that's not the intended message? | |
| Mar 6, 2023 at 16:41 | history | edited | SpencerGStaffMod | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Feb 7, 2023 at 23:34 | comment | added | Ne Mo | Ok, that makes sense. While of course I'd like feedback on my suggestion, mainly I just want to know that the needs of humanities-based stacks are being taken into consideration. H:SE is a great community, but unsurprisingly some programming concepts do not work well when applied to it. A lack of attention from higher up is part of the reason it has stayed so small. | |
| Feb 7, 2023 at 17:34 | comment | added | SpencerG StaffMod | @NeMo We won't be giving feedback on the ones not being considered. Sometime later this month or possibly early March, we will share our thoughts on this exercise and the ones we think hold promise that we will look into further. | |
| Feb 7, 2023 at 17:29 | comment | added | Ne Mo | Are you going to provide feedback for all suggestions - even if it is only reasons why they are rejected? | |
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| Dec 21, 2022 at 15:57 | comment | added | Rob | Case in point . | |
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| Dec 21, 2022 at 15:30 | comment | added | Shadow Wizard | I’m voting to close this question because it does not accept further feedback so better prevent people from wasting time by posting answers. | |
| Dec 21, 2022 at 13:57 | history | edited | SpencerGStaffMod | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Dec 21, 2022 at 0:54 | answer | added | Hank Igoe | timeline score: -4 | |
| Dec 19, 2022 at 17:21 | answer | added | Lawrence | timeline score: 5 | |
| Dec 17, 2022 at 19:51 | answer | added | Hack-R | timeline score: 2 | |
| Dec 16, 2022 at 5:54 | answer | added | kruchkamgar | timeline score: -7 | |
| Dec 15, 2022 at 14:38 | answer | added | Boots | timeline score: 3 | |
| Dec 15, 2022 at 2:54 | answer | added | Mentalist | timeline score: 2 | |
| Dec 15, 2022 at 2:01 | comment | added | Mentalist | @MikeNakis Sorry, but you cannot simply "be" the Grumpy Old Man. Do you have any idea how many SE users are competing for (and actively demonstrating their qualifications for holding) that official title? ;-p | |
| Dec 14, 2022 at 22:28 | comment | added | V2Blast | @TylerH: "Can we suggest a role that already exists, but include additional powers/abilities that that role does not already have?" – Yes, I think it's fine to propose granting additional abilities to existing roles. | |
| Dec 14, 2022 at 22:28 | comment | added | V2Blast | @TylerH: Indeed, suggestions for roles or permissions/privileges don't need to be based on reputation (and probably shouldn't be, unless it makes sense for that role). If there's a particular way you think we should determine how the suggested role/permission should be granted (e.g. opt-in, vs. auto-granted based on certain criteria, vs. manually granted), feel free to include that in your suggestion. | |
| Dec 14, 2022 at 14:54 | comment | added | Shadow Wizard | @TylerH of course, that's ideal and sounds perfect. I'm talking about how it's going to be actually implemented and integrated into Stack Exchange. They can't just re-model their whole codebase for that, and they won't, so this part is cryptic and unknown. | |
| Dec 14, 2022 at 14:42 | comment | added | TylerH | @ShadowWizardChasingStars Also, this isn't really 'cryptic', rather, it mirrors how real world organizations handle permissions: role-based access is the gold standard in terms of what you let users do. Right now we have reputation-based access: the more people upvote your questions and answers, the more (unrelated) tools you get access to. This was a decent system for SO/SE when it was smaller and higher reputation translated more or less directly to the buy-in/investment a user had with the site, but it does not scale. | |
| Dec 14, 2022 at 14:36 | comment | added | TylerH | @ShadowWizardChasingStars From the description I am certain these roles will largely or wholly by given based on things other than reputation, since they are action-specific. What's the point of creating a custom empowered role for reviewing, for example, and assigning it to a 20k user who has never done a review? That's a waste of effort when there are people already actively doing those tasks that constantly wish for/ask for more features/ability. | |
| Dec 14, 2022 at 14:33 | comment | added | TylerH | @SpencerG Can we suggest a role that already exists, but include additional powers/abilities that that role does not already have? | |
| Dec 11, 2022 at 1:27 | comment | added | Beta | A thought: forget about roles, and introduce privilege deputation. X is a mod with certain privileges, but not enough time to do everything, and little interest/skill in, say, plagiarism complaints. Y is keen to work on plagiarism complaints, but lacks the necessary privileges. X lends the privileges to Y. X is 100% responsible for Y's exercise of those privileges, and can yank them back at any time. Being able to lend a privilege is, itself, a privilege which can be earned in the usual way (and, hey, maybe lent). Is there any reason to prefer "roles" over this? | |
| Dec 10, 2022 at 16:53 | answer | added | jpmc26 | timeline score: 9 | |
| Dec 9, 2022 at 10:32 | answer | added | Michael Kay | timeline score: 11 | |
| Dec 8, 2022 at 18:48 | comment | added | Mike Nakis | Can I be the honorary grumpy old man? | |
| Dec 8, 2022 at 11:54 | comment | added | The Amplitwist | Perhaps it's a good idea to split reputation into different categories instead of the current linear model, where someone can only post answers and still unlock full editing privileges, close votes, etc. even without performing any of these actions. | |
| Dec 8, 2022 at 11:40 | comment | added | Shadow Wizard | @pilchard but any possible role would also be based on reputation in some level, unless you mean SE staff or existing mods will hand pick users for whatever new role they'll add? | |
| Dec 8, 2022 at 10:36 | comment | added | pilchard | @ShadowTheKidWizard reputation based privileges assume that the reputation system is working. On SO I routinely see users with extremely high reputation still asking poorly researched questions that get upvotes, or users posting poorly researched answers on duplicates that also get upvoted. Reputation is a poor metric for privileged powers on the site. (closing a duplicate has no rep gain but makes the site more usable and cross-referenced, while a code only answer on a duplicate stands to reward rep.) | |
| Dec 7, 2022 at 14:43 | answer | added | Jonathan Leffler | timeline score: 22 | |
| Dec 6, 2022 at 22:52 | answer | added | uhoh | timeline score: 12 | |
| Dec 5, 2022 at 18:34 | answer | added | Cyril Mikhalchenko | timeline score: -4 | |
| Dec 5, 2022 at 17:46 | answer | added | Rubén | timeline score: 12 | |
| Dec 4, 2022 at 18:53 | comment | added | starball | @NeMo lol. For any new contributors like me who might not know, please see the Code of Conduct section on unacceptable behaviour. According to my understanding of the Code of Conduct, language in the class of "LMGTFY" is not acceptable- yes, even if put in an answer post that is otherwise very helpful. Ne Mo's comment is a joke. (and unacceptable behaviour shouldn't be worth bonus rep, whatever funny language it is in. You may not like it, but them's the rules). | |
| Dec 4, 2022 at 13:06 | answer | added | AncientSwordRage | timeline score: 14 | |
| Dec 4, 2022 at 12:35 | answer | added | Braiam | timeline score: 9 | |
| Dec 4, 2022 at 10:28 | comment | added | Ne Mo | Is this about creating new tools as well as a new label to hang on someone? Will for example Ye Olde Englishe Enforcer be empowered to award extra rep points to posts that say I would fain thou googlest the matter, varlet instead of LMGTFY? | |
| Dec 3, 2022 at 5:20 | comment | added | Stevo | Problem I see with these roles is how many people we assign the roles to, as we need to find a good balance between the roles with more responsibility. | |
| Dec 3, 2022 at 3:38 | answer | added | mickmackusa | timeline score: 12 | |
| Dec 2, 2022 at 20:39 | answer | added | Sep Roland | timeline score: 4 | |
| Dec 2, 2022 at 15:21 | answer | added | Lundin | timeline score: -6 | |
| Dec 1, 2022 at 17:05 | comment | added | Bhargav Rao | "Story Moderators" - a role for former mods who just want to tell stories that start with "back in my day, only diamond moderators could do all these" :p | |
| Dec 1, 2022 at 16:09 | answer | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | timeline score: 3 | |
| Dec 1, 2022 at 14:12 | comment | added | David Leal | My impression is that most of the time spent by Mods is not really moderating, but rather cleansing and classification activities. I would say the scope of the Mod should be reduced and all additional activities to be handled by other specific roles (to be created). I don't know if that is the intention of the post, but it is not clear. | |
| Dec 1, 2022 at 10:05 | answer | added | Tetsujin | timeline score: 29 | |
| Dec 1, 2022 at 10:04 | answer | added | samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz | timeline score: 34 | |
| Dec 1, 2022 at 2:51 | answer | added | Henry Ecker | timeline score: 26 | |
| Nov 30, 2022 at 20:25 | answer | added | Joachim | timeline score: 18 | |
| Nov 30, 2022 at 19:12 | answer | added | TarHalda | timeline score: 22 | |
| Nov 30, 2022 at 17:04 | answer | added | dan1st | timeline score: 12 | |
| Nov 30, 2022 at 16:57 | comment | added | V2Blast | @TimothyG: Well, if you think it's worth suggesting, it should be put in an answer. :) | |
| Nov 30, 2022 at 16:55 | comment | added | Timothy G. | I was thinking "Honorary Community Moderator" but the type of privileges I was thinking of that one would gain from being an "honorary mod" are really just an extension of privileges in general, so I'm not sure if it was worth posting an answer about. However, I was thinking that only a person could gain this role via actual site mods granting it, or if the community elected someone. | |
| Nov 30, 2022 at 14:42 | answer | added | Peter Turner | timeline score: -10 | |
| Nov 30, 2022 at 13:44 | comment | added | SpencerG StaffMod | @Tinkeringbell This is purely just discovery work. We don't have plans to overhaul anything. If badge-based privileges are where people's heads are, then that will probably be the direction we take this project. We are not married to creating roles exclusively. | |
| Nov 30, 2022 at 13:41 | comment | added | SpencerG StaffMod | @Mentalist A no-brainer I should have considered. I definitely will add it to the list. | |
| Nov 30, 2022 at 12:55 | answer | added | bad_coder | timeline score: -7 | |
| Nov 30, 2022 at 11:53 | comment | added | Tinkeringbell Mod | Most of the answers I see here seem to be suggesting some kind of new 'badge', and that 'badge' would then unlock access to certain new tools/privileges. Why are you looking at 'roles' and not just 'new badges/privileges'? What is a role supposed to be that isn't already in some way or form present in the current system/can't fit under the current system of privileges and badges (and to an extent, site preferences)? Will you be overhauling the existing system (like renaming privileges to roles), or are roles supposed to be something entirely separate? | |
| Nov 30, 2022 at 11:29 | comment | added | Mentalist | "Role Inventer" ...is clearly the most needed role. | |
| Nov 30, 2022 at 3:27 | history | edited | V2Blast | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Nov 29, 2022 at 22:57 | comment | added | starball | @philipxy in terms of goal statement: "As such, we wanted to find ways to give you all more ownership of your respective communities and empower you to shape them further.", "identify possible new roles that could help our communities run more efficiently and create a more enjoyable experience for all of you.". In terms of how: "new tools, opt-in responsibilities, or permissions related to specific badges.". | |
| Nov 29, 2022 at 22:52 | comment | added | philipxy | Although this post mentions badges for the sake of proposed "roles" within badges, it is strangely oblivious to the current role/recognition system, based on rep, badges, chat room ownership, etc. It also does not make the goal/problem clear or why/how its "roles" addresses it. Presumably, something like motivating more curation by specialized gamification. It begins with "the possible creation of new community roles" then "recognize the ways in which each user has helped". XY. | |
| Nov 29, 2022 at 15:02 | answer | added | Ne Mo | timeline score: 10 | |
| Nov 29, 2022 at 12:28 | answer | added | blackgreen | timeline score: 60 | |
| Nov 29, 2022 at 11:24 | answer | added | Luuklag | timeline score: 1 | |
| Nov 29, 2022 at 10:56 | history | edited | Rob | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Nov 29, 2022 at 8:59 | answer | added | cubick | timeline score: 16 | |
| Nov 29, 2022 at 8:45 | answer | added | holydragon | timeline score: -5 | |
| Nov 29, 2022 at 8:15 | answer | added | KWriter | timeline score: 11 | |
| Nov 29, 2022 at 8:03 | comment | added | Shadow Wizard | People don't need roles. They need privileges and the power to do things. Over the years, many tried to suggest 30k privileges, or to enhance existing privileges to give users more power to do certain things. I'd rather see those things being done rather than super complex and super cryptic new "roles", which I honestly don't understand how it can work, but that's besides the point. | |
| Nov 29, 2022 at 7:35 | comment | added | ouflak | With the exception of the subject matter related proposals, I hope that all of these recommended positions will be somewhat reputation agnostic. They should be based on proven interest and ability. | |
| S Nov 29, 2022 at 3:07 | history | suggested | Lakshya Raj | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Again, we're talking about roles given to the community, and 'so far'
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| Nov 29, 2022 at 3:02 | answer | added | Rubén | timeline score: -14 | |
| Nov 29, 2022 at 2:55 | answer | added | Ethan | timeline score: 196 | |
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| Nov 29, 2022 at 2:00 | history | edited | Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Technically speaking, staff hold codified roles on the network
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| Nov 29, 2022 at 1:42 | answer | added | Lakshya Raj | timeline score: 92 | |
| Nov 28, 2022 at 23:46 | comment | added | Journeyman Geek | @W.O. I'd oppose it being done by the distribution of cutlery by ladies of aquatic abode... "how" they are picked is likely part of the RFC ;) | |
| Nov 28, 2022 at 23:13 | history | edited | V2Blast | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Nov 28, 2022 at 23:04 | comment | added | Mast | @amWhy Most ideas so far are per-site focussed, but there is explicitly no limit on what can be suggested. If you have an idea that can only work network-wide, you can suggest it. The examples are based on earlier suggestions, none of them are actually in the pipeline of being implemented at this time. At this point, it's all idea gathering. | |
| Nov 28, 2022 at 23:03 | comment | added | V2Blast | @amWhy: While many of these suggestions might be on a per-site basis (whether or not every site would have someone fulfilling the role), we are also open to suggestions for roles that have certain abilities/responsibilities network-wide (rather than any individual site). | |
| Nov 28, 2022 at 22:51 | comment | added | amWhy | @SpencerG Is this about network wide appointees, or per site appointees, or both? Likely site-specific? | |
| Nov 28, 2022 at 22:47 | answer | added | Alexander Gruber | timeline score: 68 | |
| Nov 28, 2022 at 22:29 | answer | added | ColleenV | timeline score: 52 | |
| Nov 28, 2022 at 22:27 | comment | added | SpencerG StaffMod | @W.O. I assume you are inquiring about the examples we offered. I want to note they are just examples and are not in any state of development toward becoming a reality at this time. If someone did suggest them as an actual role, we would define these things during the creation process of those roles. | |
| Nov 28, 2022 at 22:16 | answer | added | Rob | timeline score: 40 | |
| Nov 28, 2022 at 22:13 | answer | added | Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog | timeline score: 65 | |
| Nov 28, 2022 at 21:22 | comment | added | Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog | Chat room owners are one example of this that already exist. | |
| Nov 28, 2022 at 21:19 | comment | added | W.O. | Elected? Placed in power by a consensus of existing elected moderators? I'm wary of power being given to those who won't necessarily deserve it or use it wisely. What would be the appeals process for a disagreed-with decision - flag for a mod? How to get them out if they abuse their power, removal by mod or would staff need to get involved? | |
| Nov 28, 2022 at 21:13 | history | asked | SpencerGStaffMod | CC BY-SA 4.0 |