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For questions on Peano axioms, a set of axioms for the natural numbers.

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Help me check my proof of the cancellation law for natural numbers (without trichotomy)

can you guys help me check the fleshed out logic of 'my' proof of the cancellation law for the natural numbers? It's in Peano's system of the natural numbers with the recursive definitions of addition ...
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Can we conclude that Peano's axioms consistent from soundness?

One of the corollaries of soundness says that if $\Gamma$ is satisfiable, then $\Gamma$ is consistent. I am wondering whether we can conclude that Peano's axioms $\mathsf{PA}$ is consistent from the ...
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Proving the Weak Goodstein Theorem within $\mathsf{PA}$

In Cichon, E. A., A short proof of two recently discovered independence results using recursion theoretic methods, Proc. Am. Math. Soc. 87, 704-706 (1983). ZBL0512.03028. the following process is ...
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Rigorous proof that cardinality of a disjoint union is the sum of cardinalities for finite sets

In a lot of books there are intuitive(but sort of hand wavy) proofs for finite, disjoint sets $A$ and $B$ that $$ |A \cup B| = |A| + |B| $$ since $A = \{a_1,a_2,a_3,\cdots,a_{|A|}\}$ and $B = \{b_1,...
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Precise statement of Gödel's Incompleteness Theorems [duplicate]

I have seen the following statements of Gödel's Incompleteness Theorems: Gödel's First Incompleteness Theorem (v1) If $T$ is a recursively axiomatized consistent theory extending PA, then $T$ is ...
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In the axiomatic treatment of natural numbers, can we define what a natural number is?

In his book Number Systems and the Foundations of Analysis, Elliot Mendelson first defines a Peano system (p. 53). He then goes on to prove that two arbitrary Peano systems are isomorphic — they are ...
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Do $P(0)$ and $P(n)\implies P(n+1)$ yield $P(5)$ without an axiom of induction?

As I understand it, Peano arithmetic needs the axiom of induction to prevent non-standard models of the natural numbers. Given $P(0)$ and $P(n)\implies P(n+1) \forall n\in \mathbb{N}$ I can apply ...
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Model Theory in the Language of Peano Arithmetic

Most introductory textbooks on model theory establish the theory based on the ZF set theory (e.g. [1]). In particular, a structure is defined to be a 4-tuple of sets, and so on. In [2], I came to ...
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Why Löwenheim–Skolem theorem asserts the non-existence of such predicates in 1st order logic

Suppose there was a predicate, in the language of 1st order $ \mathsf {PA} $, such that it is only true for standard natural numbers i.e. it accepts ALL and ONLY standard natural number, and it ...
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Confusion about $\mathsf{PA}$'s self-provable consistency sentences

Edit: This long question was basically answered by a quick comment! I'll accept an answer if someone posts one, but it's basically answered already. Background: In Peter Smith's Introduction to Gödel'...
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Infinite statements from finite axioms

I want to know if a given finite subset of axioms of PA1 ( 1st order peano arithmetic ) can prove infinite sentences in PA1 such that those proofs need no other axioms except those in the given finite ...
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is arithmetic finitely consistent? [duplicate]

Let's take PA1( First order axioms of peano arithmetic ) for example. From godel's 2nd incompleteness theorem, PA1 can't prove its own consistency, more specifically it can't prove that the largest ...
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Modern reference on PA degrees?

I'm currently trying to work my way around some papers from Jockush et al, and PA degrees come up frequently. I'd be interested in a modern reference/survey summarizing the main results on the subject,...
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The Peano Axioms in Polish Notation

I am new to Polish Notation, and would like someone to translate the Peano axioms into PN for me. Either the first order or second order axioms would do, but if you can do both that would be much ...
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Are there examples of statements not provable in PA that do not require fast growing (not prf) functions?

Goodstein's theorem is an example of a statement that is not provable in PA. The Goodstein function, $\mathcal {G}:\mathbb {N} \to \mathbb {N}$, defined such that $\mathcal {G}(n)$ is the length of ...
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