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On the relation of Completeness Axiom of real numbers and Well Ordering Axiom

In my abstract algebra book one of the first facts stated is the Well Ordering Principle: (*) Every non-empty set of positive integers has a smallest member. In real analysis on the other hand one ...
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If the product of two numbers is nonnegative than either both are nonnegative or both are nonpositive

In trying to prove the following inequality: $0\leq ab\Longrightarrow (0\leq a\wedge 0\leq b)\vee(a\leq 0\wedge b\leq 0)$ the following proof by contradiction was tried Proof: Let $0\leq ab$ and let,$...
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How to show $a+b=b+a$ correctly?

I have to show that $a+b = b+a$ without the use of the first axiom, which states exactly this. I may use commutativity of multiplication, associativity of addition and multiplication, existence of the ...
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Are the logarithm rules and exponentiation rules (e.g. $a^{x+y}=a^xa^y$) axioms when talking about real numbers?

Are the logarithm rules and exponentiation rules (e.g. $a^{x+y}=a^xa^y$) axioms when talking about real numbers? I know many of them can be proved via induction for integers, but no professor has ...
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Foundation of ordering of real numbers

This might be a silly question, but what is the mathematical foundation for the ordering of the real numbers? How do we know that $1<2$ or $300<1000$... Are the real numbers simply defined as ...
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How can the axioms (and primitives) of Tarski's axiomatization of $\Bbb R$ be independent?

While reading through this Wikipedia page about Tarski's axiomatization of the reals, a particular bit of text jumped out at me: Tarski proved these 8 axioms and 4 primitive notions independent. ...
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Order Axioms: '<' or '$\leq$'?

In the axioms given for the real numbers, I see that the order axioms are sometimes given for the '<' relation and sometimes for '$\leq$'. Which is more commonly used these days?
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Prove $(-x)y=-(xy)$ using axioms of real numbers

Working on proof writing, and I need to prove $$(-x)y=-(xy)$$ using the axioms of the real numbers. I know that this is equivalent to saying that the additive inverse of $xy$ is $(-x)y$ but I am ...
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Contrapositive of: $(x,y \in P) \implies xy \in P$, where $P$ is the set of real numbers

One of the axioms of order for real numbers read: $$(x,y \in P) \implies xy \in P$$ where P is the set of positive real numbers. Then, the contrapositive of this statement is: $$\sim ((x,y \in P) \...
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a problem in Stein's book 'Real analysis', relate to continuum hypothesis.

The question is from chapter 2, problem 5 in Stein's book 'Real analysis': There is an ordering $≺$ of $\mathbb R$ with the property that for each $y\in\mathbb R$ the set $\{x\in\mathbb R : x ≺ ...
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Equality of Real Numbers

Is the following statement provable from the axioms of $\mathbb{R}$? If $\forall \epsilon>0$, $|r-s|\leq \epsilon$, then $r=s$.
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How do we decide which axioms are necessary?

I am studying the axioms for a complete ordered field. I have looked at different sources, some of which differ slightly in their listings. Given some construction of the reals (e.g. Dedekind cuts or ...
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Formal proof of: $x>y$ and $b>0$ implies $bx>by$?

Property: If $x,y,b \in \mathbb{R}$ and $x>y$ and $b>0$, then $bx>by$. What is a formal (low-level) proof of this result? Or is this property taken as axiomatic? The motivation for this ...
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Proving order in real number set

Can we prove such a statement, or is it axiomatic ? $$ \forall (x,y,z) \in \mathbb{R}^3 ∶(x \leq y)∧(y \leq z)⇒(x \leq z) $$
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The product of any number and zero is zero

I don't understand why this proof is valid. The proof just swaps the left and right hand side of the equality. Is this a valid method of proof for equalities? If so, what's the logical intuition ...
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