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The whole question goes like this: Calculate the de Broglie wavelength of hydrogen molecule at 300K (Take the translational energy to be 1.5kT) Compare this to the average intermolecular spacing for hydrogen gas at 300K and 1 bar.

I know how to do the first part easily. I don't know how to approach the second part. Is it supposed to be a known fact or is there some way to calculate it?

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    $\begingroup$ From the ideal gas state equation and Avogadro constant, you get molecular density. Then, you can calculate statistical count of molecules as function of radius. Or, you may assume regular cubic placement. $\endgroup$
    – Poutnik
    Commented Nov 27, 2022 at 9:29
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    $\begingroup$ The volume containing in average 1 molecule of H2 : $$V=\frac{RT}{pN_\mathrm{A}}$$ $\endgroup$
    – Poutnik
    Commented Nov 27, 2022 at 10:24
  • $\begingroup$ I am sorry but could you please elaborate? I didn't quite get your idea. We find volume containing one molecule of h2? But I don't know the total volume so? $\endgroup$
    – Sj2704
    Commented Nov 27, 2022 at 10:34
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    – Buck Thorn
    Commented Nov 27, 2022 at 10:40
  • $\begingroup$ If you assume the molecules are uniformly distributed in a grid and you know the volume of one cell in the grid you can compute the distance between adjacent grid centers. $\endgroup$
    – Buck Thorn
    Commented Nov 27, 2022 at 10:41

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From the ideal gas state equation, applied to hydrogen, the molar volume is:

$$V_\mathrm{m} = \frac{RT}{p}$$

Using the Avogadro constant $N_\mathrm{A}$ as number of molecules in $\pu{1 mol}$, we get the volume, statistically containing in average $\text{1 molecule}$ of $\ce{H2}$:

$$V=\frac{RT}{pN_\mathrm{A}}$$

The reciprocal value $\frac{pN_\mathrm{A}}{RT}$, used below, is the molecular density in $\pu{m-3}$.

The cube root then gives the length of the edge of the respective cube:

$$L=\sqrt[3] {\frac{RT}{pN_\mathrm{A}}}$$

that gives the mean distance of centers in the tightest case of 2 facing cubes.

For $R=\pu{300 K}$ and $p = \pu{e5 Pa}$, $\sqrt[3]{\frac{RT}{pN_\mathrm{A} }} \approx \pu{3.46 nm}$

For the most distant case of 2 cubes touching by the corner, it is

$$L=\sqrt{3} \cdot \sqrt[3] {\frac{RT}{pN_\mathrm{A}}} \approx 1.73 \cdot \sqrt[3] {\frac{RT}{pN_\mathrm{A}}}$$

So the true mean will lay between these two extreme values.

More exact value would be integration over randomly placed molecules.


Another approach is to use the molecular density to calculate radius where are 2 molecules.

$$2 = \frac{pN_\mathrm{A}}{RT} \cdot \frac 43 \pi r^3 $$

$$6RT = pN_\mathrm{A} \cdot 4 \pi r^3 $$

$$ r = \sqrt[3]{\frac{3RT}{2 \pi pN_\mathrm{A} }}= \sqrt[3]{\frac{3}{2 \pi}} \sqrt[3]{\frac{RT}{pN_\mathrm{A} }} \approx 0.782 \cdot \sqrt[3]{\frac{RT}{pN_\mathrm{A} }}$$

and then

$$ D \approx 1.564 \cdot \sqrt[3]{\frac{RT}{pN_\mathrm{A} }}$$

This is the maximal value, the more proper one would be to compute the mean distance of two molecules randomly place in a sphere of a given diameter. But this step is already beyond my skills.

But, by stochastic Monte Carlo analysis, it looks like the mean distance of two randomly placed objects in a sphere of radius $r$ is $$L_\mathrm{mean} = \frac{4}{3}r = \frac{4}{3} \sqrt[3]{\frac{3}{2 \pi}} \sqrt[3]{\frac{RT}{pN_\mathrm{A} }}= \sqrt[3]{\frac{32}{9 \pi}} \sqrt[3]{\frac{RT}{pN_\mathrm{A} }} \approx 1.042 \cdot \sqrt[3]{\frac{RT}{pN_\mathrm{A} }} = 1.042 \cdot \pu{3.46 nm} \approx \pu{3.61 nm}$$

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