Are the Gorn species and the Tamarian species related in the Star Trek Universe or other non-canon Star Trek references? I see some visual similarities between the two species.
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1Why WOULD they be? They look totally different & have completely different cultures. If you have reason to believe they might be related, please cite the reason in the question.– OmegacronCommented May 12, 2015 at 13:50
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@JMFB: What is your basis for comparing the two? Did you encounter this theory somewhere? You should provide some background in the question as to why you suspect them to be related.– PraxisCommented May 12, 2015 at 17:31
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@Omegacron Sorry, re-read my post as I have edited it, and see if that helps explain with my question.– JMFBCommented May 12, 2015 at 18:21
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@Praxis Again Sorry, please re-read my post and see if that helps explain my question any better.– JMFBCommented May 12, 2015 at 18:22
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2@JMFB - Please don't edit your question to attempt to comment on answers.– ValorumCommented May 12, 2015 at 19:44
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Technically, probably yes.
(But we don't know for sure)
According to a TNG episode "The Chase" (season 6, episode 20), a lone ancient race of beings scouted our galaxy before there was any humanoid life there except for them. They are responsible for seeding various planets with their own DNA, out of which all humanoid life forms have developed. Therefore all of the races including Humans, Romulans, Cardassians, Klingons, etc. (and presumably Gorn and Tamarians) share a common ancestor.
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+1 to this. You are technically correct, the best kind of correct.– ValorumCommented May 12, 2015 at 19:41
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@MarkRogers Fair enough. I modified the answer. Also, Ron D. Moore said this race could have been the Preservers, but he intentionally left their identity vague.– ChahkCommented May 12, 2015 at 20:32
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Almost definitely not
The Gorn are lizard people (with insect eyes?).
The Tamarians are not lizard people. They might be related to bats though, judging by their noses at least.
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LOL, I love the term "Lizard People", very scientific! What would the Lizard people call us? Silly Puddy people? @daft I edited my question, and used some images to try and explain my thinking.– JMFBCommented May 12, 2015 at 18:24
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I think it's safe to say the Tamarians were not meant to be updated versions of the Gorn, although they may be technically related in the sense Chahk mentioned (though I don't think this is clear--the Gorn look different enough from most "humanoids" that their basic body configuration might just be a case of convergent evolution). Aside from the fact that there seems to be almost no visual similarity between them in the pictures posted by Daft, the Gorn wiki article mentions that an updated version of a Gorn was shown in an Enterprise episode, "In a Mirror, Darkly Part II", and they weren't depicted as looking anything like the Tamarians:
answered May 12, 2015 at 20:07
Aside from the fact that the episodes TOS:Arena and TNG:Darmok are often used to highlight the differences between the first two Star Trek series, as well as the differences between Kirk and Picard, there are no connection between the races.
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Yes, references? Not just for the no connection, but how they're used to highlight differences between the two shows.– JMFBCommented May 12, 2015 at 18:25
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What references do you need but watching both episodes? Kirk beats the hell out of the Gorn (oh wait, it's the other way around o.O but anyways brute force is key here), Picard talks and is getting talked to an understanding. Other than that: do you want a reference cited for there being exactly NO connection between the two races? And if this reference is not provided you're going to take its non-existance as a proof of the contrary? "Fascinating!"– GhanimaCommented May 12, 2015 at 19:43
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@Ghanima Actually I thought he meant the differences in special effects and costumes. If he's referring to Kirk being violent and Picard not using this episode...I totall disagree. Kirk had no choice. He was being attacked by an alien he could not communicate with, it was complete self defense. Picard has fought on many occasions, if you'd like me to list some of them I can. I'll give the dialog from the episode in another comment to refute 100% what you are saying.– JMFBCommented May 12, 2015 at 21:58
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"KIRK: No. No, I won't kill you. Maybe you thought you were protecting yourself when you attacked the outpost. (He throws the dagger away, stands up and shouts to the sky) KIRK: No, I won't kill him! Do you hear? You'll have to get your entertainment someplace else! METRON: By sparing your helpless enemy who surely would have destroyed you, you demonstrated the advanced trait of mercy...I sent him back to his ship. If you like, I shall destroy him for you. KIRK: No. That won't be necessary. We can talk. Maybe reach an agreement." HARDLY KIRK TRYING TO "beat the hell" out of the Gorn.– JMFBCommented May 12, 2015 at 22:03