Timeline for Are Gorn and Tamarian related?
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| May 12, 2015 at 22:18 | comment | added | JMFB | @Ghanima why isn't this the right place? If his answer is that these two episodes were designed to show that Kirk is violent and resorts to violence first, and that Picard is a peaceful person who doesn't resort to violence. I can give many examples of the exact opposite. I gave the exact example from this exact episode. As for Kirk's relationship with women, TNG simply breaks Kirk into two characters, Picard and Riker. Kirk had to do a lot more acting and cover a lot more roles. Kirk had more air time for two reasons, length of the episodes and # of characters. | |
| May 12, 2015 at 22:10 | comment | added | Ghanima | @JMFB, I don't think that this is the right place for this kind of discussion. And yes, I do know that Kirk did not kill the Gorn or anyone else (hope this holds true) in cold blood! Other than that please let me stick to my own flat picture of the three tools of Kirk's conflict resolution: 1) punch it (if it is a male alien), 2) talk it into self destruction (if it is an AI), 3) seduce it (if it is a female alien) ;) | |
| May 12, 2015 at 22:03 | comment | added | JMFB | "KIRK: No. No, I won't kill you. Maybe you thought you were protecting yourself when you attacked the outpost. (He throws the dagger away, stands up and shouts to the sky) KIRK: No, I won't kill him! Do you hear? You'll have to get your entertainment someplace else! METRON: By sparing your helpless enemy who surely would have destroyed you, you demonstrated the advanced trait of mercy...I sent him back to his ship. If you like, I shall destroy him for you. KIRK: No. That won't be necessary. We can talk. Maybe reach an agreement." HARDLY KIRK TRYING TO "beat the hell" out of the Gorn. | |
| May 12, 2015 at 21:58 | comment | added | JMFB | @Ghanima Actually I thought he meant the differences in special effects and costumes. If he's referring to Kirk being violent and Picard not using this episode...I totall disagree. Kirk had no choice. He was being attacked by an alien he could not communicate with, it was complete self defense. Picard has fought on many occasions, if you'd like me to list some of them I can. I'll give the dialog from the episode in another comment to refute 100% what you are saying. | |
| May 12, 2015 at 19:43 | comment | added | Ghanima | What references do you need but watching both episodes? Kirk beats the hell out of the Gorn (oh wait, it's the other way around o.O but anyways brute force is key here), Picard talks and is getting talked to an understanding. Other than that: do you want a reference cited for there being exactly NO connection between the two races? And if this reference is not provided you're going to take its non-existance as a proof of the contrary? "Fascinating!" | |
| May 12, 2015 at 18:25 | comment | added | JMFB | Yes, references? Not just for the no connection, but how they're used to highlight differences between the two shows. | |
| May 12, 2015 at 8:16 | comment | added | Daft | Any references? | |
| May 12, 2015 at 7:06 | history | answered | Boelabaal | CC BY-SA 3.0 |