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Re: Fiber going live: more progress made on the Boardman systemThis is what's going on in Poland. There are no less than 15 tickets open for Comcast within a mile or so of my sisters house. |
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There's no tickets open near me. Hopefully work will be done soon. |
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dslwanter22 years on this site
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It moves rather fast. Armstrong has a good system going now for sure. |
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That's good to hear |
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2023-Oct-22 12:16 am
All new fiber connections go to cg-nat, a quick phone call gets you to dynamic ipv4. No word on ipv6. |
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When I had Armstrong and was converted to fiber I can confirm they will get you to dymanic public routable IP, but I ended up with one tied to a different area for geolocation. I ended up needing to pay five bucks for a static to ultimately resolve that. |
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I'm starting to see more and more work being done around Boardman. They just surveyed my street again on Friday. West Blvd is getting fiber ran right now. 224 up by the old Golden Coral has a spool sitting there and also 224 by Mill Creek Golf Course has aerial lines going up. |
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That is good. I see at&t has gotten pretty hot and heavy over there too. 224 up and down market and south avenues and all of the neighborhoods around that area. I was at st e boardman the other day and noticed it all the way up to that block of 224. |
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I am 90% sure this is what they're using for distribution. These hubs are larger scale than the PFPs AT&T uses. |
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Oh wow. Yeah, AT&T doesn't put natural gas generator backup on their DSLAMs. And their PFPs don't need them.
I expected to see a larger fiber bundle coming down that pole, given the area served. |
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There's a large fiber bundle that comes down off of 46 and presumably down under ohltown rd to this box. The grey conduit comes up and feeds into the box. The tech that installed for me said they are pretty elaborate, he also did say they were gated which makes me wonder if this is it. This is off to the side when you pull into the Steward Health medical center. But this is the only one I've noticed and it's not at&t. |
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I expected that they would repurpose their old HFC hubs. Especially since they would already have ample bandwidth coming into them for backhaul to North Lima.
Most of the legacy TWC hubs I've seen are small brick or cinderblock huts. Not prefab buildings like they use below cell towers. I was expecting Armstrong to have something similar, but maybe they'll shed those old buildings in favor of these smaller footprint outdoor equipment boxes. I'm sure it costs less in HVAC alone. |
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It also appears that none of the old fiber is immediately being using in the new network. I suspect some of it may be repurposed for additional capacity as needed. You can see it pass right around the splitters along with the coax. Obviously because they still have to maintain the HFC network until it is completely decommissioned.
I agree, I think they are planning on shedding those properties in favor of smaller footprint. I also believe they are intending to remove all existing power injectors and drawing minimal power to power these subs, along with a natural gas generator. |
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They started doing a ton of tree work on my street to cut them back away from the lines. I'm assuming this is pre-construction. |
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There's an uptick of dig orders in our development all of the sudden, i would say a solid 25-30% of the decelopment. I also notice 2 and sometimes 3 Armstrong techs working at a splice. I am wondering if contractors screwed the pooch and Armstrong is having to do damage control. Last night, there was an Armstrong tech working well past dark on a drop splice that had been preciously done by a contractor. I also no longer see "working for armstrong" or "working on the 10g" trucks. It is often no less than 2 armstrong trucks doing the fiber conversions when previously they were only doing the final terminations to make it ready to go for a contracted tech to come and finish the install with the customer. |
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Interesting. Wouldn't surprise me. Fiber will be easy for them to manage the plant once it's done. But all the splicing and build isn't as easy and forgiving as coax.
I just wonder whether it was the contractor screwing up or if Armstrong is just trying to cut costs by bringing more of the work in house. |
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Maybe both, but I know for sure these are redos |
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I also got a little more wind of At&ts build out. They are linking all of the Co's with 2 fiber feeds running down main roads in the area. These are all buried. Blue and orange conduit. Right now, they are trenching 46 from Mahoning up into weathersfield and niles. At each area where you see conduit outward is going to be a splice with a cylindar cone marked fiber. This already happened up and down Mahoning Ave, 224, 422, meridian, salt springs just to name a few. Team Fishel is the contractor for this piece. Once this is done they'll be adding more neighborhoods. My suspicion is this is capacity driven, more capacity between each co they'll add more pfps.
All pretty cool to witness and about a decade overdue. |
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Interesting, I've seen Team Fishel all over Boardman as well. They were working on the corner of West Blvd and 224 about a month ago that looks like it might be complete. Haven't seen much since then though. Just a lot of surveying on my street. Not sure when they are supposed to start work. |
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AT&T and Armstrong both turned up fiber in the develoment adjacent to me this week. The att pfp went in last August, so for some reason there was a stall I imagine capacity concerns. I noticed that there's a spool of fiber right where this ends and down pole looking like another pfp is going to cascade off of it, that's the one to serve us from what I can tell. My in laws are in this development, I am really curious to see what kind of deal they're going to be able to hagle. |
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Fishel is digging the trenches for fiber installation at the intersection of Shields and Lockwood right now. I just passed it. They're also installing Fiber on Lockwood over by the Rosewood neighborhood. |
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said by ChuckX192:Fishel is digging the trenches for fiber installation at the intersection of Shields and Lockwood right now. I just passed it. They're also installing Fiber on Lockwood over by the Rosewood neighborhood. With orange and blue conduit right? Looks to be AT&Ts backhaul. All of the paths lead to downtown Youngstown it seems. They're working hard on 46 and Mahoning up into Weathersfield as well presumably to the Niles CO. |
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Yep, I saw the conduit laying around where they were digging. If I go past it again, I'll get a better look. |
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I got my rack rate bill of $109 after promo. Best they can do is $15 off. At&t ahoy when our pfp is ready at rack rate of $80, $70 if I switch to their cell service. Thought Armstrong would do a little better. |
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I was surprised by their lack of effort when I went to cancel for another fiber player in our town. I think the "we're the cableco and we're the best" mantra still may be in play..... I wonder how long before they change their tune..... |
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I would say the att progression is still less than 30% of their boardman system. |
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said by OSIU:I was surprised by their lack of effort when I went to cancel for another fiber player in our town. I think the "we're the cableco and we're the best" mantra still may be in play..... I wonder how long before they change their tune..... This really is everyone’s mantra now. People switch back and forth so much it’s not worth it for them to not make their margins. Even DIRECTV who used to heavily discount to keep customers has stopped |
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I'm in McDonald and got Armstrong fiber in November. I know some in town have AT&T fiber also, but it's not in my neighborhood yet. |
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More work is being done around 224/lockwood/tippecanoe area today. Team fishel had a turning lane blocked off from Lockwood and they were digging near the bridge by Handels. |
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dslwanter22 years on this site
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It is still a big race. Armstrong has tightened up on pricing and promotions, they moved perhaps too fast and I'll bet they're feeling it and the loss of subscribers to at&t. Att is selling 1gbps here now for $70 while Armstrong wants $109, $95 with the promo. They will not honor last year's $68 promo, my bill is now up $25/mo. |
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