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Getting an opposite sign for the centrifugal potential energy in the effective potential [duplicate]

Consider a system whose Lagrangian is $$L = \frac12 \mu\left( \dot r^2 + r^2 \dot\theta^2 \right) -U(r) $$ By the Euler-Lagrange equation, $$\frac{\partial L}{\partial\theta}=\frac{d}{dt}\frac{\...
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In equation (3) from lecture 7 in Leonard Susskind’s ‘Classical Mechanics’, should the derivatives be partial?

Here are the equations. ($V$ represents a potential function and $p$ represents momentum.) $$V(q_1,q_2) = V(aq_1 - bq_2)$$ $$\dot{p}_1 = -aV'(aq_1 - bq_2)$$ $$\dot{p}_2 = +bV'(aq_1 - bq_2)$$ Should ...
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Question about Problem $12$ in Chapter $11$ from Kibble & Berkshire's book

I write again the problem for convinience: A rigid rod of length $2a$ is suspended by two light, inextensible strings of length $l$ joining its ends to supports also a distance $2a$ apart and level ...
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What is the physical significance of this generalised potential?

Consider a generalised potential of the form $U=-f\vec{v}\cdot\vec{r}$ where $f$ is a constant. This potential should not contribute any internal forces between particles as \begin{equation} \vec{F}=-\...
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Classification of equilibrium configurations for particles subject to elastic force constrained on a circle

I am interested in classifying all the possible equilibrium configurations for an arrangement of $l$ equal point particles $P_1, P_2, . . . , P_l$ $(l > 2)$ on a circle of radius $R$ and centre $O$....
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Why is gravitational potential energy negative in this Lagrangian? [closed]

The question is given as follows: From (6.109) shouldn't the Lagrangian be K(kinetic) - U(potential), but here its K + U? Unless the potential energy is negative, if so I'm struggling to come to ...
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Velocity-Dependent Forces and Generalized Potential

Is there any theorem about for which velocity-dependent forces a velocity-dependent generalized potential of the form $$F_k=\frac d {dt} \left(\frac {\partial U}{\partial \dot q_k}\right)-\frac {\...
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How can the equation for generalized force be derived assuming the system is in equilibrium?

I have been going over sections 1.4-1.5 of Goldstein's Classical Mechanics where the equation for generalized force \begin{equation} Q_j=-\frac{\partial U}{\partial q_j} +\frac{d}{dt}\frac{\partial U}{...
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Is Hamilton’s principle valid for systems that are not monogenic?

I have read in Goldstein that Hamilton’s principle works only for monogenic systems. Is it true? I thought that the action principle is universal?
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On generalised potential in Electrodynamics

I'm studying Lagrangian Mechanics from Goldstein's Classical Mechanics. My question concerns Section 1.5 which talks about velocity-dependent potentials. I am actually unsure about how Equation 1-64' ...
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How to understand "the potential energy in an EM field is determined by $\phi$ alone"?

Goldstein page 342, Consider a single particle (non-relativisitic) of mass $m$ and charge $q$ moving in an electromagnetic field. The Lagrangian is $$ L = T-V = \frac{1}{2}mv^2-q\phi +q\vec{A}\cdot \...
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Why does the Lagrangian not show particle-interaction? Why are normal/tension forces not considered?

(1) For formulating a lagrangian for a system of particles compared to one free particle, we start with the kinetic energy and formulate a potential energy term that is in terms of each of the radius ...
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Lagrange versus Euler-Lagrange equation for inverted pendulum

On the wikipedia page of inverted pendulum, in the section "inverted pendulum on a cart" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_pendulum#Inverted_pendulum_on_a_cart), the equations of ...
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Why does the Lagrangian equal $T-V$? [duplicate]

When defining $L=T-V$, and using Euler-Lagrange equations ($\partial_x L = \frac{d}{dt} \partial_{\dot{x}} L$), we get back $m \ddot{x} = - \frac{dV}{dx}$ ONLY WHEN ASSUMING that $V(x, \dot{x}) = V(x)$...
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Question from Classical mechanics Goldstein H [closed]

When we are given a Lagrangian as $L \equiv L(\dot{x}, V)$ where $V=V(x)$, while differentiating why do we set $\frac{dV}{d\dot{x}} = 0$? Is it just because $V$ is a function of only $x$? Since it’s ...
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