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Is there a proof from the first principle that the Lagrangian $L = T - V$?

Is there a proof from the first principle that for the Lagrangian $L$, $$L = T\text{(kinetic energy)} - V\text{(potential energy)}$$ in classical mechanics? Assume that Cartesian coordinates are used. ...
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Example in motivation for Lagrangian formalism

I started reading Quantum Field Theory for the Gifted Amateur by Lancaster & Blundell, and I have a conceptual question regarding their motivation of the Lagrangian formalism. They start by ...
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Doubt in the expression of Lagrangian of a system [duplicate]

There is a problem given in Goldstein's Classical Mechanics Chapter-1 as 20. A particle of mass $\,m\,$ moves in one dimension such that it has the Lagrangian \begin{equation} L\boldsymbol{=}\...
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Charge, velocity-dependent potentials and Lagrangian

Given an electric charge $q$ of mass $m$ moving at a velocity ${\bf v}$ in a region containing both electric field ${\bf E}(t,x,y,z)$ and magnetic field ${\bf B}(t,x,y,z)$ (${\bf B}$ and ${\bf E}$ are ...
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Effective potential of a two-body system

This question is with regards to a two body system consisting of two masses that interact via a conservative central force. In polar coordinates, the Lagrangian can be written as $$\frac{1}{2}M\dot{...
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Internal potential energy and relative distance of the particle

Today, I read a line in Goldstein Classical mechanics and got confused about one line. To satisfy the strong law of action and reaction, $V_{ij}$ can be a function only of the distance between the ...
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What is an effective potential in classical mechanics?

What is an effective potential in classical mechanics? I have read the wikipedia article and David Tong's lectures notes, but I didn't understand how an effective potential simplifies a situation or ...
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Lagrangian Equations of Motion, Conservative Forces

I'm new to this topic so please bear with me. Here on wikipedia we have the Lagrangian equations of motion: $$ \frac{d}{dt}\left(\frac{\partial T}{\partial \dot{q}}\right) - \frac{\partial T}{\...
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Why is the potential independent of the generalized velocity?

In Goldstein, Classical Mechanics, Chap. 1.4 we derive Lagrange's equations from D'Alembert's Principle. My question is regarding the last part of the derivation, specifically the part where he ...
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Generalized force arising from a velocity-dependent potential

On slide 16 of this presentation it is stated without proof that given a velocity-dependent potential $U(q,\dot q, t)$, the associated generalized force is $$Q_j = - \frac{\partial U}{\partial q^j} + \...
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Non-conservative system and velocity dependent potentials

I'm studying Lagrangian mechanics, but I'm a little bit upset because when dealing with Lagrange's equations, we mostly consider conservative systems. If the system is non conservative they are very ...
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Is the potential term in a Lagrangian velocity-dependent?

I know that the Lagrangian of a system has to be dependent on the coordinate (as the type of potential in it is dependent on the coordinate) and on velocity and time (per KE and PE, respectively). ...
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Particle in electromagnetic field Lagrangian

Given the two definitions of $\vec E$ and $\vec B$ by scalar potential $\phi$ and vector potential $\vec A$: $$\vec B=\vec \nabla \times \vec A$$ $$\vec E=-\vec \nabla \phi -\frac 1 c\frac {\partial \...
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Force and energy relation: in case of time dependent force

The equivalent problems are also found in Marion problem 7-22, and other formal classical mechanics textbook. Here what i want to know why instructor solution and some websites gives this kinds of ...
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