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Consider a system whose Lagrangian is

$$L = \frac12 \mu\left( \dot r^2 + r^2 \dot\theta^2 \right) -U(r) $$

By the Euler-Lagrange equation,

$$\frac{\partial L}{\partial\theta}=\frac{d}{dt}\frac{\partial L}{\partial\dot\theta}$$

Calculating the conjugate potential for $\theta$

$$p_\theta = \frac{\partial L}{\partial\dot\theta} = \mu r^2\dot\theta \equiv l$$

$$\frac{dl}{dt} = \frac{\partial L}{\partial\theta} = 0$$

Also,

$$\frac{\partial L}{\partial r}=\frac{d}{dt}\frac{\partial L}{\partial\dot r}$$

$$\mu r\dot\theta^2-U'(r) = \frac{l^2}{\mu r^3}-U'(r)=\mu\ddot r$$

Note that we cannot substitute with $l$ first, and then differentiate considering $l$ as a constant. All we know is $dl/dt=0$

$$\frac{d}{dr}\left(\frac12\mu r^2\dot\theta^2\right)=\mu r\dot\theta^2=\frac{l^2}{\mu r^3}~~~(1)$$

$$\frac{d}{dr}\left(\frac12l\dot\theta\right)=0~~~(2, \times)$$

$$\frac{d}{dr}\left(\frac{l^2}{2\mu r^2}\right)=-\frac{l^2}{\mu r^3}~~~(3, \times)$$

In the books I've checked, the centrifugal potential energy is defined as

$$U_{cf} = \frac{l^2}{2\mu r^2}$$

and the centrifugal Force is calculated as

$$F_{cf} = -\frac{d}{dr}\left(\frac{l^2}{2\mu r^2}\right)=\frac{l^2}{\mu r^3}$$

This is the point where I'm confused. $l$ is considered as an actual constant when calculating $F_{cf}$. In (2) and (3), considering $l$ as a constant gave bogus results.

Some books write

$$-\frac{d}{dr}\left(\frac{l^2}{2\mu r^2}+U(r)\right)= \frac{l^2}{\mu r^3}-U'(r)=\mu\ddot r$$

and again, $l$ is regarded as an actual constant.

Differentiating as in (1) will result in an opposite sign for the centrifugal part.

Why is $l$ treated differently depending on which context?

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    $\begingroup$ which books? what is $(3,\times)$? $\endgroup$ Commented Jul 6 at 2:57
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    $\begingroup$ Possible duplicates: physics.stackexchange.com/q/83190/2451 , physics.stackexchange.com/q/262183/2451 and links therein. $\endgroup$
    – Qmechanic
    Commented Jul 6 at 3:03
  • $\begingroup$ @ZeroTheHero Sorry to be unclear. The books I meant were basically two classical mechanics books (Taylor, Marion) and some lecture notes I have. I wrote $(3, \times)$ to mean equation (3) is incorrect. $\endgroup$
    – xiver77
    Commented Jul 6 at 7:22

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