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Meaning of $d\mathcal{L}=-H$ in analytical mechanics?

In Lagrangian mechanics the momentum is defined as: $$p=\frac{\partial \mathcal{L}}{\partial \dot q}$$ Also we can define it as: $$p=\frac{\partial S}{\partial q}$$ where $S$ is Hamilton's principal ...
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Generalized momentum

I am studying Hamiltonian Mechanics and I was questioning about some laws of conservation: in an isolate system, the Lagrangian $\mathcal{L}=\mathcal{L}(q,\dot q)$ is a function of the generalized ...
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Changing variables from $\dot{q}$ to $p$ in Lagrangian instead of Legendre Transformation

This question is motivated by a perceived incompleteness in the responses to this question, which asks why we can't just substitute $\dot{q}(p)$ into $L(q,\dot{q})$ to convert it to $L(q,p)$, which ...
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Landau/Lifshitz action as a function of coordinates [duplicate]

In Landau/Lifshitz' "Mechanics", $\S43$, 3ed, the authors consider the action of a mechanical system as a function of its final time $t$ and its final position $q$. They consider paths ...
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Definition of generalized momenta in analytical mechanics

I've seen mainly two definitions of generalized momenta, $p_k$, and I wasn't sure which one is always true/ the correct one: $$p_k\equiv\dfrac{\partial\mathcal T}{\partial \dot q_k}\text{ and }p_k\...
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Sufficient condition for conservation of conjugate momentum

Is the following statement true? If $\frac{\partial \dot{q}}{\partial q}=0$, then the conjugate momentum $p_q$ is conserved. We know that conjugate momentum of $q$ is conserved if $\frac{\partial L}{\...
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Lagrangian and Hamiltonian Mechanics: Conjugate Momentum

I am a physics undergraduate student currently taking a classical mechanics course, and I am not able to understand what conjugate/canonical momentum is (physically). It is sometimes equal to the ...
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Lagrange momentum for position change

After the tremendous help from @hft on my previous question, after thinking, new question popped up. I want to compare how things behave when we do: $\frac{\partial S}{\partial t_2}$ and $\frac{\...
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Momentum $p = \nabla S$

My book mentions the following equation: $$p = \nabla S\tag{1.2}$$ where $S$ is the action integral, nabla operator is gradient, $p$ is momentum. After discussing it with @hft, on here, it turns out ...
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What are the extra terms in the generalized momentum regarding the Lagrangian formalism?

In the lectures, we have defined the generalized momentum in the Lagrangian to be: $$p_i=\frac{\partial L}{\partial\dot q_i}.$$ But with this definition, if we do not make any assumptions about the ...
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In a simple case of a particle in a uniform gravitational field, do we have translation invariance or not?

Consider a system where a particle is placed in a uniform gravitational field $\vec{F} = -mg\,\vec{e}_{z}$. The dynamics of this are clearly invariant under translations. When we take $z\rightarrow z+...
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How to show the velocity of free motion is constant in Galileo's relativity principle?

Picture below is from Landau & Lifshitz's Mechanics. How to get the red line from green line?
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Generalized vs conjugate momenta

For a given Lagrangian $L$, the $i$th generalized momentum is defined as $$p_i = \frac{\partial L}{\partial \dot{q_i}}$$ where $\dot{q_i}$ is the time derivative of the $i$th generalized coordinate (i....
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Help with geometric view of conjugate momenta and Legendre transformation

I'm familiar with the ''coordinate view'' of Lagrangian and Hamiltonian mechanics where if $\pmb{q}=(q^1,\dots, q^n)\in\mathbb{R}^n$ are any $n$ generalized coordinates and $L(\pmb{q},\dot{\pmb{q}})$ ...
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What do you think about this particularization of the Euler-Lagrange equation that resembles Newton's 2nd Law?

For: $$\mathcal{L}=\mathcal{L}(q_j,\dot{q_j},t)=T-V$$ the Euler-Lagrange equation is simply: $$\frac{d}{dt}\left(\frac{\partial \mathcal{L}}{\mathcal{\dot{q_j}}} \right)-\frac{\partial \mathcal{L}}{\...
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