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Momentum as derivative of on-shell action

In Landau & Lifshitz' book, I got stuck into this claim that the momentum is the derivative of the action as a function of coordinates i.e. $$ \begin{equation}p_i = \frac{\partial S}{\partial x_i}\...
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What is the difference between kinetic momentum $p=mv$ and canonical momentum?

What is the difference, if any, between kinetic momentum $p=mv$ and canonical momentum? Why is canonical momentum important (specifically to classical field theory)?
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Simple explanation of why momentum is a covector?

Can you give a simple, intuitive explanation (imagine you're talking to a schoolkid) of why mathematically speaking momentum is covector? And why you should not associate mass (scalar) times velocity (...
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How does the canonical momentum $p_i\equiv\frac{\partial L}{\partial\dot q_i}$ transform under a coordinates change $\mathbf q\to\mathbf Q$?

The canonical momentum is defined as $$p_{i} = \frac {\partial L}{\partial \dot{q_{i}}}, $$ where $L$ is the Lagrangian. So actually how does $p_{i}$ transform in one coordinate system $\textbf{q}$ to ...
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Help with geometric view of conjugate momenta and Legendre transformation

I'm familiar with the ''coordinate view'' of Lagrangian and Hamiltonian mechanics where if $\pmb{q}=(q^1,\dots, q^n)\in\mathbb{R}^n$ are any $n$ generalized coordinates and $L(\pmb{q},\dot{\pmb{q}})$ ...
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Gauge freedom in Lagrangian corresponds to canonical transformation of Hamiltonian

I want to show that the gauge transformation $$L(q,\dot{q},t)\mapsto L^\prime(q,\dot{q},t):=L(q,\dot{q},t)+\frac{d}{dt}f(q, t)$$ corresponds to a canonical transformation of the Hamiltonian $H(p, q, ...
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Hamiltonian definitions in the presence of boundary term [duplicate]

Consider a Lagrangian of the form \begin{equation} L(q,\dot{q})=L_1(q,\dot{q})+\frac{d L_2(q,\dot{q})}{dt} \end{equation} I understand that $\dot{L_2}$ does not modify the equations of motion, ...
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What is the function type of the generalized momentum?

Let $$L:{\mathbb R}^n\times {\mathbb R}^n\times {\mathbb R}\to {\mathbb R}$$ denote the Lagrangian (it should be differentiable) of a classical system with $n$ spatial coordinates. In the action $...
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In a simple case of a particle in a uniform gravitational field, do we have translation invariance or not?

Consider a system where a particle is placed in a uniform gravitational field $\vec{F} = -mg\,\vec{e}_{z}$. The dynamics of this are clearly invariant under translations. When we take $z\rightarrow z+...
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Why can't we obtain a Hamiltonian from the Lagrangian by only substituting?

This question may sound a bit dumb. Why can't we obtain the Hamiltonian of a system simply by finding $\dot{q}$ in terms of $p$ and then evaluating the Lagrangian with $\dot{q} = \dot{q}(p)$? Wouldn't ...
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Hamilton-Jacobi formalism and on-shell actions

My question is essentially how to extract the canonical momentum out of an on-shell action. The Hamilton-Jacobi formalism tells us that Hamilton's principal function is the on-shell action, which ...
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Momentum $p = \nabla S$

My book mentions the following equation: $$p = \nabla S\tag{1.2}$$ where $S$ is the action integral, nabla operator is gradient, $p$ is momentum. After discussing it with @hft, on here, it turns out ...
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Does the conservation of $\frac{\partial L}{\partial\dot{q}_i}$ necessarily require $q_i$ to be cyclic?

If a generalized coordinate $q_i$ is cyclic, the conjugate momentum $p_i=\frac{\partial L}{\partial\dot{q}_i}$ is conserved. Is the converse also true? To state more explicitly, if a conjugate ...
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Help with understanding virtual displacement in Lagrangian

I know that these screen shots are not nice but I have a simple question buried in a lot of information My question Why can't we just repeat what they did with equation (7.132) to equation (7.140) ...
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