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Noether's Theorem in non-conservative systems

In most books on classical mechanics, Noether's Theorem is only formulated in conservative systems with an action principle. Therefore I was wondering if it is possible to also do that in non-...
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Some doubts about action symmetry

We know that Symmetry of the Lagrangian ($\delta L = 0$) always yields some conservation law. Now, if $\delta L \neq 0$, that doesn't mean we won't have conservation law, because if we can show action ...
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Conflict of domain and endpoints in Noether's theorem and energy conservation

In the derivation of energy conservation, there is the transformation $q(t)\rightarrow q'(t)=q(t+\epsilon)$, whose end points are kind of fuzzy. The original path $q(t)$ is only defined from $t_1$ to $...
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Conserved quantities of a simple Lagrangian

Suppose the following Lagrangian with 2 degrees of freedom: $$L = \frac{3}{2}\dot{q}^2_{1} \ + \frac{3}{2}\dot{q}^2_{2} \ + \dot{q}_{1}\dot{q}_{2}$$ My aim is to find all the conserved quantities of ...
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Doubt Regarding Noether's theorem for time-dependent systems

I'm having problems showing Noether's theorem when the lagrangian is time dependent. I'm trying to do it not using infinitesimal transformations from the beginning, but continuous transformations of a ...
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Symmetry of a time-dependent Lagrangian

How do I get the group of symmetries and the constant of motion of $L=\frac{\dot{x}^2}{2}m+V(x+ct)$ where c is a constant? When I tried to solve it, it was to look for shifts in $x$ and $ct$ under ...
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Noethers Symmetries for a system in different cases

If the lagrangian is $$L=\frac{m}{2}\left( \dot x_1^2+ \dot x_2^2\right)−b(x_1−x_2)^2+a( \dot x_1x_2− \dot x_2x_1).$$ What are the Noether symmetries of the system and the corresponding conserved ...
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Conservations for time or space translational invariance, why $\delta L\vert_{\text{time trans}}\neq 0$? but $\delta L\vert_{\text{space trans}}= 0$?

To summarize my question first, Given a classical mechanics Lagrangian, $L=L(x(t), \dot{x}(t); t)$, Why the conservation law for time $t$-translational invariant system, under time variance $\delta ...
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How conserved quantities lead to equations of motion in Lagrangian mechanics

In a classical mechanics exercise, we were asked to derive a system of ODEs from conserved quantities. As we know from Lagrangian mechanics, Euler-Lagrange equations lead to equations of motion. I ...
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Is there a straightforward simplified proof of energy conservation from time translation symmetry?

Electric charge conservation is easily proven from electric potential gauge symmetry, as follows: The potential energy of an electric charge is proportional to the electric potential at its location. ...
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Conservation theorem for cyclic coordinates in the Lagrangian

Suppose $q_1,q_2,...,q_j,..,q_n$ are the generalized coordinates of a system. $q_j$ is not there in the Lagrangian (it is cyclic). Then $\frac{\partial L}{\partial\dot q_j}=constant$ In Goldstein, it ...
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