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Is there a straightforward simplified proof of energy conservation from time translation symmetry?

Electric charge conservation is easily proven from electric potential gauge symmetry, as follows: The potential energy of an electric charge is proportional to the electric potential at its location. ...
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Noether Theorem and Energy conservation in classical mechanics

I have a problem deriving the conservation of energy from time translation invariance. The invariance of the Lagrangian under infinitesimal time displacements $t \rightarrow t' = t + \epsilon$ can be ...
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Does quasi-symmetry preserve the solution of the equation of motion?

In some field theory textbooks, such as the CFT Yellow Book (P40), the authors claim that a theory has a certain symmetry, which means that the action of the theory does not change under the symmetry ...
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What is the point of knowing symmetries, conservation quantities of a system?

I think this kind of question has been asked, but i couldn’t find it. Well i have already know things like symmetries, conserved quantities and Noether’s theorem, as well as their role in particle ...
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Does the Hamiltonian formalism yield more Noether charges than the Lagrangian formalism?

In Lagrangian formalism, we consider point transformations $Q_i=Q_i(q,t)$ because the Euler-Lagrange equation is covariant only under these transformations. Point transformations do not explicitly ...
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Doubt Regarding Noether's theorem for time-dependent systems

I'm having problems showing Noether's theorem when the lagrangian is time dependent. I'm trying to do it not using infinitesimal transformations from the beginning, but continuous transformations of a ...
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Some doubts about action symmetry

We know that Symmetry of the Lagrangian ($\delta L = 0$) always yields some conservation law. Now, if $\delta L \neq 0$, that doesn't mean we won't have conservation law, because if we can show action ...
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Invariance of Lagrangian in Noether's theorem

Often in textbooks Noether's theorem is stated with the assumption that the Lagrangian needs to be invariant $\delta L=0$. However, given a lagrangian $L$, we know that the Lagrangians $\alpha L$ (...
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In a simple case of a particle in a uniform gravitational field, do we have translation invariance or not?

Consider a system where a particle is placed in a uniform gravitational field $\vec{F} = -mg\,\vec{e}_{z}$. The dynamics of this are clearly invariant under translations. When we take $z\rightarrow z+...
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Analytical mechanics: Noether charge as a generator with variating fields to time direction [duplicate]

Summary I want to clarify how can I prove the fact that "the Noether charge generates the corresponding transformation" when the infinitesimal transformation of the fields contain the ...
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Geometrical intuition for Noether's Theorem

I have been reading some questions about the relation between Noether's Theorem and Lie Algebras and I wanted to get some intuition on it, but I didn't find what I really wanted. Also, the majority of ...
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Noether's Theorem in non-conservative systems

In most books on classical mechanics, Noether's Theorem is only formulated in conservative systems with an action principle. Therefore I was wondering if it is possible to also do that in non-...
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Intuition behind the definition of Continuous Symmetry of a Lagrangian (Proof of Noether's Theorem)

Suppose there is a one-parameter family of continuous transformations that maps co-ordinates $q(t)\rightarrow Q(s,t)$ where the $s$ is the continuous parameter. Also, for when $s=0$ the transformation ...
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How did Noether use the total time derivation to get her conservation of energy? [duplicate]

I was informed by @hft that by combining the total time derivation: $$\frac{dL}{dt} = \frac{\partial L}{\partial x}\dot{x} + \frac{\partial L}{\partial \dot{x}}\ddot{x} + \frac{\partial L}{\partial t}$...
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Conservation theorem for cyclic coordinates in the Lagrangian

Suppose $q_1,q_2,...,q_j,..,q_n$ are the generalized coordinates of a system. $q_j$ is not there in the Lagrangian (it is cyclic). Then $\frac{\partial L}{\partial\dot q_j}=constant$ In Goldstein, it ...

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