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Constructing Lagrangian from the Hamiltonian

Given the Lagrangian $L$ for a system, we can construct the Hamiltonian $H$ using the definition $H=\sum\limits_{i}p_i\dot{q}_i-L$ where $p_i=\frac{\partial L}{\partial \dot{q}_i}$. Therefore, to ...
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What properties make the Legendre transform so useful in physics?

The Legendre transform plays a pivotal role in physics in its connecting Lagrangian and Hamiltonian formalisms. This is well-known and has been discussed at length in this site (related threads are e....
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Why are Hamiltonian Mechanics well-defined?

I have encountered a problem while re-reading the formalism of Hamiltonian mechanics, and it lies in a very simple remark. Indeed, if I am not mistaken, when we want to do mechanics using the ...
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Is there a valid Lagrangian formulation for all classical systems?

Can one use the Lagrangian formalism for all classical systems, i.e. systems with a set of trajectories $\vec{x}_i(t)$ describing paths? On the wikipedia page of Lagrangian mechanics, there is an ...
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Why can't we obtain a Hamiltonian from the Lagrangian by only substituting?

This question may sound a bit dumb. Why can't we obtain the Hamiltonian of a system simply by finding $\dot{q}$ in terms of $p$ and then evaluating the Lagrangian with $\dot{q} = \dot{q}(p)$? Wouldn't ...
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If the Lagrangian depends explicitly on time then the Hamiltonian is not conserved?

Why is the Hamiltonian not conserved when the Lagrangian has an explicit time dependence? What I mean is that it is very obvious to argue that if the Lagrangian has no an explicit time dependence $L=L(...
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Hamiltonian of non-regular Lagrangian is well-defined on phase space

In section 1.1.3 of Quantization of Gauge Systems by Henneaux and Teitelboim, it is stated that the Hamiltonian $$H=\dot{q}^np_n-L,\tag{1.8}$$ although trivially a function of $q$ and $\dot{q}$, can ...
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Independence of generalised coordinates and momenta in Hamiltonian mechanics [duplicate]

I am told that in Hamiltonian mechanics, we put the generalised coordinates $q_i$ and generalised momenta $p_i$ on equal footing, and treat them as being independent from one another. But I'm ...
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Do time-invariant Hamiltonians define closed systems?

In classical mechanics, every time-invariant Hamiltonian represents a closed dynamical system? Can every closed dynamical system be represented as a time-invariant Hamiltonian? Or are there closed ...
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Liouville's theorem for systems with dissipation described by a single hamiltonian

Following this link, one can treat dissipation by using a factor $e^{\frac{t \beta}{ m}}$ in addition to the Lagrangian $L_0$ of a system without disspation: $$ L[q, \dot{q}, t] = e^{\frac{t \beta}{ m}...
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Why is the Legendre transformation the correct way to change variables from $(q,\dot{q},t)\to (q,p,t)$?

I always found Legendre transformation kind of mysterious. Given a Lagrangian $L(q,\dot{q},t)$, we can define a new function, the Hamiltonian, $$H(q,p,t)=p\dot{q}(p)-L(q,\dot{q}(q,p,t),t)$$ where $p=\...
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General Form for Kinetic Energy Given Velocity Independent Potential such that $\mathcal{H}=E$

Suppose the potential energy is independent of $\dot{q},$ i.e $\frac{\partial V}{\partial\dot{q}}=0$. What is the most general form of the kinetic energy such that the Hamiltonian is the total energy? ...
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Does the additivity property of Integrals of motion and Lagrangians valid in all situations?

I would like to know if the additivity property of an integral (constant) of motion valid in all situations ? It works for energy but does it work for all other integrals of motion in all kinds of ...
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Proof that Hamiltonian is constant if Lagrangian doesn't depend explicitly on time

I know that on solutions of motion we have $\frac{dH}{dt}=\frac{\partial H}{\partial t} $ and i understand the proof for this fact. Then, we have that $$\frac{\partial H}{\partial t}=-\frac{\partial L}...
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How to derive the fact that $p\sim d/dx$ and $H\sim d/dt$ from classical mechanics?

I am trying to understand Noether's conserved quantities to shifts in time and or position. I have seen the derivation of the operators for Schrodinger's equation but not for classical mechanics. Is ...
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