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Difference between the energy and the Hamiltonian in a specific example

The problem is the following: Consider a particle of mass $m$ confined in a long and thin hollow pipe, which rotates in the $xy$ plane with constant angular velocity $\omega$. The rotation axis ...
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The definition of the hamiltonian in lagrangian mechanics

So going through the "Analytical Mechanics by Hand and Finch". In section 1.10 of the book, the Hamiltonian $H$ is defined as: $$H = \sum_k{\dot{q_k}\frac{\partial L}{\partial \dot{q_k}} -L}.\tag{1.65}...
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General Form for Kinetic Energy Given Velocity Independent Potential such that $\mathcal{H}=E$

Suppose the potential energy is independent of $\dot{q},$ i.e $\frac{\partial V}{\partial\dot{q}}=0$. What is the most general form of the kinetic energy such that the Hamiltonian is the total energy? ...
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Why are Hamiltonian Mechanics well-defined?

I have encountered a problem while re-reading the formalism of Hamiltonian mechanics, and it lies in a very simple remark. Indeed, if I am not mistaken, when we want to do mechanics using the ...
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Liouville's theorem for systems with dissipation described by a single hamiltonian

Following this link, one can treat dissipation by using a factor $e^{\frac{t \beta}{ m}}$ in addition to the Lagrangian $L_0$ of a system without disspation: $$ L[q, \dot{q}, t] = e^{\frac{t \beta}{ m}...
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Independence of generalised coordinates and momenta in Hamiltonian mechanics [duplicate]

I am told that in Hamiltonian mechanics, we put the generalised coordinates $q_i$ and generalised momenta $p_i$ on equal footing, and treat them as being independent from one another. But I'm ...
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Do time-invariant Hamiltonians define closed systems?

In classical mechanics, every time-invariant Hamiltonian represents a closed dynamical system? Can every closed dynamical system be represented as a time-invariant Hamiltonian? Or are there closed ...
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Constructing Lagrangian from the Hamiltonian

Given the Lagrangian $L$ for a system, we can construct the Hamiltonian $H$ using the definition $H=\sum\limits_{i}p_i\dot{q}_i-L$ where $p_i=\frac{\partial L}{\partial \dot{q}_i}$. Therefore, to ...
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Does the additivity property of Integrals of motion and Lagrangians valid in all situations?

I would like to know if the additivity property of an integral (constant) of motion valid in all situations ? It works for energy but does it work for all other integrals of motion in all kinds of ...
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Why can't we obtain a Hamiltonian from the Lagrangian by only substituting?

This question may sound a bit dumb. Why can't we obtain the Hamiltonian of a system simply by finding $\dot{q}$ in terms of $p$ and then evaluating the Lagrangian with $\dot{q} = \dot{q}(p)$? Wouldn't ...
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Is there a valid Lagrangian formulation for all classical systems?

Can one use the Lagrangian formalism for all classical systems, i.e. systems with a set of trajectories $\vec{x}_i(t)$ describing paths? On the wikipedia page of Lagrangian mechanics, there is an ...
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