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On ' Set theory with an introduction to real point sets'(Dasgupta, Abhijit ,2014) i found this exercise:

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This is interesting because compare the topological (left,1) and order (right,2) definition of dense set.

(1) $A$ is dense in $X$ if $X\subseteq \overline{A}$.

! Ps. I considered $X$ as subset of $\mathbb{R}$ and then $\overline{A}$ is closure of $A$ (i.e. set of adherent point of $A$)

(2) forall $x,y\in X$ with $x<y$ there is $a\in A$ with $x<a<y$.

Recall also that: (3) $X$ is dense order if forall $x,y\in X$ with $x<y$ there is $z\in X$ with $x<z<y$.


My proof of 1)-->2): Let $x,y\in X$ with $x<y$.

For (3) exists $z\in X$ with $x<z<y$.

For (1) $z\in \overline{A}$. From definition of adherent point exists $c\in (x,y)\cap D$ and ok.


I have problem with 2)-->1) implication. If i considered $X=[0,1)\cup\{2\}$ and $A=[0,1)$ then it seems to me that: $X$ is a dense order, $A$ verified (2) but not (1) ($\overline{A}=[0,1]$).

What am I doing wrong?

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  • $\begingroup$ "tale que" sounds good. $\endgroup$ Commented Jul 5 at 13:54

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By definition $493$ of Dasgupta, $2$ is indeed a limit point of $A$ considered as a subset of the order $X$.

Does the so called topological definition appear in the book? I couldn't find it. What are you doing wrong? Well, you are using a definition that doesn't appear in the book and in fact contradicts the definition appearing in the book. Different textbooks might (and very often do) use different definitions or conventions.

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  • $\begingroup$ So the proposed definition of limit point and derived set does not coincide with the classical one? [en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derived_set_(mathematics)]. When this definition are equivalent? PS. Topological because i considered the 'Subspace topology' on $X$. $\endgroup$
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    Commented Jul 5 at 15:49

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