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Why did Saruman seem to believe that Sauron wouldn't return?

In The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey, when Gandalf is meeting with Saruman, Galadriel and Elrond in Rivendell, they are discussing the Necromancer. When Gandalf suggests that it is Sauron returning, ...
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Dagor Dagorath - Is there any indication of who may return?

As you know, this is the apocolyptic event which occurs at the end of LOTR. I've been searching non-stop but simply cannot find if any from say, War of the Ring will return. People like Gandalf, The ...
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What will Saruman The White's role be in The Desolation of Smaug?

I was wondering if anyone has any insight on this? As far as I'm aware, The White Council did attack Dol Guldur, But will Saruman be leading this attack and do you think he'll have quite a big role in ...
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In 'The Hobbit: AUJ', why is Gandalf submissive in Saruman's presence?

In The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey movie, Gandalf appears particularly subdued/submissive in Saruman's presence during their meeting at Rivendell. Why is this so? Is it simply because Saruman is of ...
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In Rivendell, did Saruman try to use his "Voice" on Elrond, Galadriel and Gandalf?

In The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (2012), when the company arrive to Rivendell, Gandalf is asked to attend a surprise reunion with Elrond, Galadriel and Saruman the White. Saruman then opposes ...
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Was Saruman's secret plan settled when he meet Gandalf in Rivendell?

In The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (2012), when the company arrive to Rivendell, Gandalf is asked to attend a surprise reunion with Elrond, Galadriel and Saruman the White. Saruman then opposes ...
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