Timeline for Did the Ring Bearers and Gimli die in Valinor?
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Aug 3, 2023 at 22:03 | comment | added | chiggsy | Elves do this kind of thing often, in various mythologies. Gimli wants to see Galadriel. She says, 'Cool, jump on the boat, we'll have some lembas.' Nibble, nibble, nibble. Yawn. 'Have some hair, pal.' Smiles. Then she bounces, leaving him to sicken and die. Gimli should get round trip ticket! Send him home! He's a war hero! Durin's Bane is dead! The Dragons are gone! He's going to smell flowers until he dies? Why? He's not a hobbit! He's a dwarf! Cash him in with some gold and send him back! He had nobody besides Legs and Gally? No fam? No friends? Nobody? | |
Apr 10, 2023 at 2:12 | history | unprotected | Buzz | ||
Oct 22, 2022 at 23:28 | answer | added | Spencer | timeline score: 4 | |
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Sep 12, 2021 at 12:15 | answer | added | Mark Olson | timeline score: 3 | |
Sep 12, 2021 at 5:27 | answer | added | ibid | timeline score: 5 | |
Apr 1, 2021 at 19:28 | history | unprotected | Buzz | ||
Apr 9, 2019 at 20:37 | comment | added | Misha R | I think that them going off to Valinor is the end of their story, since it marks the end of any part of their life that has anything to do with our world. They likely died there, since they are mortal - but it seems to me that not giving us information about what exactly happened to them there is intentional on Tolkien's part. The LotR doesn't work the same way in this regard as The Silmarillion. | |
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Jun 30, 2017 at 21:12 | answer | added | Jesse | timeline score: -1 | |
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Aug 13, 2015 at 1:22 | answer | added | Joe C | timeline score: 2 | |
Aug 4, 2015 at 11:36 | comment | added | WOPR | @hoffman actually Sauron was literally correct. Ar-Pharazôn did in fact achieve immortality by going to Aman, albeit imprisoned in the Caves of the Forgotten. It appears Illuvatar withrew the Gift of Men from those who were imprisoned. " But Ar-Pharazôn the King and the mortal warriors that had set foot upon the land of Aman were buried under falling hills: there it is said that they lie imprisoned in the Caves of the Forgotten, until the Last Battle and the Day of Doom" | |
Aug 4, 2015 at 10:42 | comment | added | user49161 | Earendil was half elven thus was given the choice for mortal or immortal by the Valar. Frodo and the rest are pure mortal, so Earendil's case doesn't apply here. | |
Jul 12, 2015 at 1:32 | comment | added | Hoffmann | In the Akallabêth (the tale of the fall of Numenor) it is stated that the immortality of the people who live in the undying lands does not come from the land itself, but from what the people themselves are (the land is named after the people, not the other way around). Sauron tricked Ar-Pharazôn (the last king of Numenor) into believing that the land would grant him eternal life, so he set sail with a mighty host to invade the undying lands. It did not work out very well for the king. | |
Mar 12, 2015 at 2:25 | vote | accept | Kevin | ||
Mar 12, 2015 at 2:23 | history | edited | Kevin | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Mar 12, 2015 at 0:19 | comment | added | IG_42 | In a nutshell they're called the undying lands because immortal people live there not because anyone there becomes immortal. | |
Mar 11, 2015 at 22:00 | answer | added | Shooter McGavin | timeline score: 9 | |
Mar 12, 2014 at 11:15 | answer | added | jean | timeline score: -4 | |
Dec 28, 2013 at 13:17 | answer | added | user8719 | timeline score: 5 | |
Aug 27, 2013 at 0:16 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/#!/StackSciFi/status/372150467679514624 | ||
Aug 26, 2013 at 23:22 | answer | added | Thaddeus Howze | timeline score: 34 | |
Aug 26, 2013 at 23:17 | answer | added | user56 | timeline score: 102 | |
Aug 26, 2013 at 23:14 | answer | added | James Christopher | timeline score: 0 | |
Aug 26, 2013 at 22:36 | history | asked | Kevin | CC BY-SA 3.0 |