Timeline for Which ship can go faster, the Millennium Falcon or the USS Enterprise-D?
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| Mar 7, 2020 at 19:43 | history | reopened |
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| Mar 6, 2020 at 18:24 | history | edited | Valorum | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Mar 6, 2020 at 18:22 | history | edited | TheLethalCarrot♦ | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Mar 6, 2020 at 18:18 | history | edited | Valorum | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Mar 6, 2020 at 15:59 | history | closed |
TheLethalCarrot♦ DavidW Vanguard3000 T.J.L. Philipp |
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| Mar 6, 2020 at 15:14 | comment | added | GridAlien | @Valorum, well at least we can agree to something that should be closed. Anyway, here's my post on meta (scifi.meta.stackexchange.com/a/12945/125493), feel free to downvote. | |
| Mar 6, 2020 at 14:59 | comment | added | Valorum | @GridAlien - If you asked which could jump higher, that would be very answerable. Alas James Bond (and all spy-fi) is off-topic. Gorilla Vs. Shark is fine is you're asking which is the better swimmer or climber. | |
| Mar 6, 2020 at 14:57 | comment | added | GridAlien | @Valorum, FTL travel is impossible in our universe. Clearly, something important is fundamentally different. Regardless, I'd hold that a question asking about Batman's skill vs James Bond is also largely opinion based, despite both being fictionalizations of our universe. And I'll gladly raise the issue on Meta. | |
| Mar 6, 2020 at 14:55 | comment | added | Valorum | @GridAlien - This issue has already been raised on Meta. If you have an answer that differs, feel free to post it so that I can downvote it; scifi.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/10746/… - "It's not down to the questioner to prove every crackpot hypothesis that comes along before they're allowed to ask a question that compares fictional universes." | |
| Mar 6, 2020 at 14:46 | comment | added | Valorum | @GridAlien - As I've pointed out (repeatedly), these aren't entirely fictional universes. These are fictionalised versions of our universe. We have plenty of reason to believe that fundamental constants are the same from one to the other | |
| Mar 6, 2020 at 14:41 | comment | added | GridAlien | @Valorum, This question is asking about comparing the top speed of two imaginary space ships, using imaginary technology, from two different imaginary universes. I'm at a loss as to how anyone could possibly believe it could have an "objective" answer. This question should be closed. | |
| Mar 6, 2020 at 14:36 | comment | added | Valorum | @GridAlien - Sure, another writer can always retcon something. That doesn't mean we should throw every question in the bin | |
| Mar 6, 2020 at 14:34 | comment | added | GridAlien | @Valorum that's the point. There's too much inconsistency for this comparison to be objective. Another writer could come along later and change it again. Anything we do is just our opinion. | |
| Mar 6, 2020 at 14:30 | comment | added | Valorum | @GridAlien - It's been addressed by Trek writers and actors repeatedly. Here, for example. | |
| Mar 6, 2020 at 14:28 | comment | added | GridAlien | @Valorum, then under that logic the time it took for the Falcon to go from Mos Eisley to the Death Star could also be discounted as 'early weirdness.' It's an opinion. Until a writer addresses these discrepancies in Trek, on screen, any rationalization between them is just an opinion. | |
| Mar 6, 2020 at 13:59 | comment | added | Valorum | @GridAlien - That's generally considered to be an example of 'early episode weirdness', just like the Enterprise being used for time travel archaeology in Assignment Earth. | |
| Mar 6, 2020 at 13:06 | comment | added | Chronocidal | With or without Wesley and/or the Traveller boosting the Warp Drive? | |
| Mar 6, 2020 at 13:03 | comment | added | GridAlien | @Valorum, this is opinion based because the answer differs depending on the Enterprise chosen. Kirk's ship was once knocked 1,000 ly off course, and it took them only 8 hours to return. In other words, it would have taken them 25 days to do the Voyager journey. Even if the Falcon existed in Star Trek (which it doesn't) it'd still be just an opinion. | |
| Mar 5, 2020 at 19:52 | comment | added | Valorum | @fez - Precisely. The point of Gorilla Vs. Shark is that you're asking things that can't be objectively quantified, like who'd win in a fight between Superman and Spongebob. If the question is about a quantifiable attribute such as their height, it's easy to compare like with like | |
| Mar 5, 2020 at 19:26 | comment | added | fez | To quote Valorum: "I'm at a loss why someone would vote to close this as opinion-based. We have objective figures for both ship's top speeds and multiple examples of their travel across known distances" - based off canon we can derive an answer. There is no reason to close the way I see it | |
| Mar 5, 2020 at 19:00 | review | Close votes | |||
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| Mar 5, 2020 at 18:38 | comment | added | GridAlien | There's no way to answer this. It's Gorilla v Shark. As this answer states (scifi.stackexchange.com/a/77492/125493) there's no good way to compare warp speed, even in ST. The 1701-D might mathematically be slower than the Falcon, whilst the original 1701 might match her. It makes no sense, and is ultimately up the whim of the writer. | |
| May 16, 2017 at 7:13 | history | edited | Valorum |
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| Mar 25, 2017 at 23:36 | comment | added | Justin Time - Reinstate Monica | @Mithrandir I believe you forgot the Enterprise, Enterprise, and Enterprise-A. Considering the differences between the latter two and their prime universe counterpart, it's possible that they may have had a higher top speed. | |
| Mar 25, 2017 at 9:10 | comment | added | Please stop being evil | Gorrilla V Shark? | |
| Mar 24, 2017 at 19:20 | comment | added | Devsman | @aksh1t I always liked that even though the Heart of Gold could go infinitely fast, and passes through every point in the universe simultaneously, it still gets outrun more than once in the series. | |
| Mar 24, 2017 at 12:05 | comment | added | Jack Aidley | I'm deeply disappointed that the answers to this question haven't involved doing the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs. | |
| Mar 23, 2017 at 18:22 | comment | added | Omegacron | The obvious answer is that SpaceBall-One is the fastest. It can go to plaid. | |
| Mar 23, 2017 at 12:07 | comment | added | Jasper | Can there ever be a point in comparing [the speed of a ship in] a universe that bothers with realistic-ish properties which have consequences with [the speed of a ship in] a universe that uses numbers as something they should increase to increase the level of awesomeness (and spends a lot of time retrosplaining when a unit of distance is confused with one of speed)? | |
| Mar 23, 2017 at 8:52 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackSciFi/status/844834345361670144 | ||
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| Mar 22, 2017 at 19:32 | history | reopened |
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| Mar 22, 2017 at 19:17 | history | closed |
Mr Lister Dave Johnson user14111 user931 Rogue Jedi |
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| Mar 22, 2017 at 18:46 | comment | added | user931 | @Valorum It doesn't say it's same. We just don't have enough data. | |
| Mar 22, 2017 at 18:42 | answer | added | user931 | timeline score: 5 | |
| Mar 22, 2017 at 18:22 | comment | added | user931 | @Valorum You aren't getting my point. It's the standards I am talking about. Star Trek presumably uses standard Earth year (in the light year definition) which has 365 days, each day containing 24 hours, each hour containing 60 minutes or so. There are many ways in which distance denoted by light year in one universe can be different from that in another universe. Maybe, Star Wars uses 100 days year or second, minute definition is entirely different. | |
| Mar 22, 2017 at 12:05 | answer | added | MichaelK | timeline score: 114 | |
| Mar 22, 2017 at 9:42 | answer | added | user931 | timeline score: 13 | |
| Mar 21, 2017 at 18:20 | vote | accept | Gavin S. Yancey | ||
| Mar 21, 2017 at 14:58 | comment | added | Valorum | @Nat - "I guess I’d have to call it a Universe class vessel. The approved J had one deflector, recognizably descended from the NX. I imagine they are beyond Transwarp. I imagine they can fold space, and that they are exploring other Galaxy’s (extremely risky business) besides the Milky Way." - Doug Drexler. | |
| Mar 21, 2017 at 13:32 | comment | added | Nat | Enterprise-J is by far the fastest if the commentary on the Wiki page is accepted, as it's able to cross the universe and possibly even time-travel. But since those comments are non-canon, the canon answer would have to be, "We don't know." with regards to the Enterprise-J. | |
| Mar 21, 2017 at 12:59 | comment | added | Valorum | @n00dles - Don't be disheartened. The TNG Technical manual clearly states that warp speed is affected by interstellar conditions. Warp 2 means how much energy you're putting in, not how much speed you're getting out. | |
| Mar 21, 2017 at 12:57 | comment | added | n00dles | I worked out the speed of the Enterprise-D before, by how long it was going to take them to get a certain distance in a certain amount of time at warp whatever, but what I found when analyzing other episodes is inconsistency! Grrr! | |
| Mar 21, 2017 at 12:15 | comment | added | Mithical | Please clarify which Enterprise. There are a lot of Enterprises in ST canon^ | |
| Mar 21, 2017 at 12:15 | comment | added | Mithical | Enterprise, Enterprise, Enterprise-A, Enterprise-B, Enterprise-C, Enterprise-D, Enterprise-E, and Enterprise-J. | |
| Mar 21, 2017 at 12:11 | comment | added | tobiasvl | I love that this example question was finally asked. scifi.meta.stackexchange.com/a/10717/23384 | |
| Mar 21, 2017 at 12:08 | history | edited | Mithical |
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| Mar 21, 2017 at 12:05 | comment | added | Edlothiad | To second what @Valorum has said. It is clear there is canonical evidence to answer this question, and requires very minimal amounts of speculation. | |
| Mar 21, 2017 at 12:04 | review | Close votes | |||
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| Mar 21, 2017 at 11:58 | comment | added | Valorum | I'm at a loss why someone would vote to close this as opinion-based. We have objective figures for both ship's top speeds and multiple examples of their travel across known distances. | |
| Mar 21, 2017 at 11:54 | answer | added | Valorum | timeline score: 206 | |
| Mar 21, 2017 at 11:29 | review | First posts | |||
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| Mar 21, 2017 at 11:26 | history | asked | Gavin S. Yancey | CC BY-SA 3.0 |