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So I am a "new DM", aka I have been Dming for my group for about a year now. I am a very calculated person and tend to mostly stick to RAW, although I correct what I feel is out of place. One homebrew rule I have made is that I gave the Draconic Bloodline Sorcerer Resistance to the damage of their Draconic Ancestor at level 1 and at lvl 6, they get temporary immunity.

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Starting at 6th level, when you cast a spell that deals damage of the type associated with your draconic ancestry, you can add your Charisma modifier to one damage roll of that spell. At the same time, you can spend 1 sorcery point to gain resistance to that damage type for 1 hour.

I have only had one player play a Sorcerer of this subclass and unfortunately the game fizzled out before 6th lvl. So I don't even have a sample size of 1 for my own understanding of whether this change is helpful, unbalanced, or acceptable. Can anybody else grant me more insight on this matter?

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Welcome to our stack, ZenRenHao! Please take the tour to learn more about how we operate and I'd also recommend visiting the help center for even more info! \$\endgroup\$
    – NotArch
    Commented May 1, 2022 at 13:17
  • \$\begingroup\$ Other than the obvious, "I want it NOW", what was the reason for moving the 6th level ability up to 1st? It also sounds like you allowed it...is that correct? \$\endgroup\$
    – NotArch
    Commented May 1, 2022 at 13:18
  • \$\begingroup\$ @NautArch In my opinion I believe I moved it because I felt like it 1. didn't fit where it was and 2. That it seemed like a feature many people would look over. Primary in the department of just choosing a race that already got the resistance you would spend a resource on. Such as a Red Dragonborn of the Subclass with Red or Gold Dragon ancestry. It has been about 10+ months since I did so though so my reasoning my have been different then. \$\endgroup\$
    – ZenRenHao
    Commented May 1, 2022 at 13:25
  • \$\begingroup\$ @ZenRenHao I edited your question's title to better reflect the real issue, as resistance at level 1 is far more common and thus less of a problem than immunity at level 6. If you disagree, feel free to revert or modify the change. \$\endgroup\$ Commented May 1, 2022 at 14:55

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It depends on the campaign

If you're running in a setting where one damage type is particularly prominent (perhaps Rime of the Frostmaiden?), then one of your players could choose the draconic sorceror with the corresponding resistance/immunity. In that circumstance it would be overpowered.

If you're running a generic setting, or if you're doing an adventure against something that mostly does physical damage (orcs?), then it's less of a concern and I wouldn't worry about it.

In my experience I try to avoid homebrew

My own experience is that my players don't like homebrew, because it's more stuff that they have to learn before they can play in my game. My players like to spend their time thinking about the fun parts of D&D; they're not as interested in reading lists of rule changes.

This is especially true for experienced players who have played in a lot of games (or who are playing in a lot of games). It's much easier if the rules stay consistent, just so that there's less stuff to keep track of.

If there's a good reason to homebrew something, of course that's still okay. But if you're just thinking "this rule doesn't look right to me, let me adjust the balance a little", my advice is to try to avoid that.

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    \$\begingroup\$ There are a number of classes that provide powerful one level dips in 5E, so I wouldn't say it's uncommon. Hexblade for Cha casters that want to un-MAD their weapon attacks, Cleric for insert host of powerful level 1 domain features, taking any armor proficiency or skill proficiency heavy class at level one then switching to your "real" class, but with decent armor/skills, and any full caster to get attack cantrips that scale with your level even if you never gain another level in the class. Sure, many classes need 2-3 levels to unlock the best bits, but one-level dips are common enough. \$\endgroup\$ Commented May 1, 2022 at 16:29
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Gaining resistance at level 1 is ok, but gaining immunity is (too) strong.

There aren't many effects that grant immunity to a damage type. A few spells do something like that (Investiture of Ice/Flame, Mind Blank, and of course the Invulnerability spell), and level 10 monks or land druids get poison immunity, as do Yuan-Ti Purebloods from XGtE. I'm sure there are a few others that I missed, but they're probably similar to those above in terms of cost or impact. See also Barring Epic Boons, is there a way to gain immunity to fire damage?, which (among others) lists a few options for becoming immune to fire - though all very high level or requiring legendary magic items.

That being said: these options are all either expensive or only very specific and available to a very small subset of players.

Now, I haven't personally played with your house rule, and thus I can't judge from personal experience. Based on my general expertise with 5e and my subsequent bonus to WIS rolls, however, I would say that it's either overpowered, or as strong as you can get without being overpowered.

With your houserule, the player has more flexibility in picking the damage type than with other abilities, although (s)he can only do so at the start and is then locked in for the remainder of the campaign, so it's not too flexible. The mechanically speaking best choice is probably fire, so that one can ignore common damaging spells like Burning Hands, Fireball, or others (fire is one of, if not the most common damage type). As fire is the most versatile and strong choice, I will focus on it from now on.

However, if we compare your ability to other abilities that grant fire damage immunity (see above), it's evident that they are usually much higher level than level 6. This leads me to believe that gaining immunity to fire at level 6 is indeed overpowered, as it allows you to ignore the most common elemental damage type, which is useful both against enemies and for ignoring your party colleagues' fireballs, allowing for easier positioning.

Good news: it's fixable.

First off, I would change the ability to only grant immunity if your Draconic ancestry matches your Dragonborn player race. This seems to be your intent anyway, so let's just phrase it like that:

Starting at 6th level, when you cast a spell that deals damage of the type associated with your draconic ancestry, [...]. At the same time, you can spend 1 sorcery point to gain resistance to that damage type for 1 hour. If you are a Dragonborn with the same Draconic Ancestry as your Draconic Bloodline, you instead gain immunity to that damage type.

Next, gaining immunity is clearly usually reserved for higher levels, so let's modify it some more:

If you are a Dragonborn with the same Draconic Ancestry as your Draconic Bloodline, you can instead gain immunity to that damage type, starting at level 12.

I chose level 12, because while it's stronger than for example a druid's primordial ward, it's not quite as strong as some other classes' fire immunity, considering it's not permanent. Also, like level 6, level 12 is one level after advancing to a new tier of play.

If you decide to instead up the cost of gaining immunity to (significantly) more than one sorcery point, you could get away with leaving it at level 6.

Furthermore, since you are the DM, this ability will always only be as strong as you allow it to be. If you decide not to throw any enemies with fire damage in their repertoire at your party, then you probably don't have to balance the ability at all beyond your original phrasing. In that case, it will only be useful for granting the other party members more flexibility with fireball positioning and the like. However, avoiding all enemies with fire damage is next to impossible, as it eliminates very many enemies (including basically all wizards).

For balancing, you could also put more focus on the effects of being subjugated to fire while immune. Normally, the risk of getting your clothes and other possessions burned off when hit by a fireball is ignored, because it would be very annoying for the players. In this case, however, you could emphasize that effect for the Sorcerer to increase the cost of getting hit by fire (even if only marginally). In fact, it's probably a fun addition to have that one guy in the party who's always naked, yet physically fine, after getting hit by fire. It goes without saying that your player (and players - not everyone wants nudity in their game, even if it's not sexual) should be ok with this before starting the campaign.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Monks also get poison immunity at lvl10. I suggested an edit (rpg.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/79321), but it got rejected because I also took the liberty of suggesting a new paragraph at the bottom with a middle ground of only having clothes get fully burned away from swimming in lava or otherwise exploiting fire immunity by taking much more fire damage than you would in the normal course of events. Apparently some reviewers thought I intended it as a comment and that it made no sense as an edit, which is weird. \$\endgroup\$ Commented May 2, 2022 at 11:03
  • \$\begingroup\$ @PeterCordes it's not weird. Neither of your suggested changes are wrong, but like I state in the answer, "I'm sure there are a few others that I missed". Adding every option is unhelpful and makes the question unnecessarily long (though I probably would have accepted that edit on its own). And the same goes for your other suggested change; it's of course an option, but again, there are very many such options, and adding all of them is not beneficial. As a matter of fact, my entire last paragraph is a bit tangential and awfully close to being opinion-based, and as such doesn't need prolonging. \$\endgroup\$ Commented May 2, 2022 at 11:40
  • \$\begingroup\$ Fair enough about the last paragraph. With the monk addition, I wasn't trying to make it an exhaustive list, it just seemed weird to leave out monks but include druids when they both got very similar features at the same level. So only an extra 2 words were needed there to cover the class that gives poison immunity as a core feature, not a subclass. (Also, I just checked on druids and it's only Land druids that get poison / disease immunity, not druids in general. But all monks get it.) \$\endgroup\$ Commented May 2, 2022 at 11:51
  • \$\begingroup\$ @PeterCordes fixed :) \$\endgroup\$ Commented May 2, 2022 at 17:17

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