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Weird sign in EOM: Centripetal vs. centrifugal term [duplicate]

Something goes wrong when I was deriving the equation of motion in Kepler's probelm, as below, Angular momentum conservation $L = Mr^2\dot{\theta}^2$. And Lagrangian is $L = \frac{1}{2}M(\dot{r}^2 + ...
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Substituting the conservation of angular momentum into the Binet formula results in contradiction [duplicate]

Background Information The lagrangian of a particle in a central force field $V(r)$ is $$ L=\frac12m(\dot r^2+r^2\dot\theta^2+r^2\sin^2\theta\dot\varphi^2)-V(r). $$ The particle must move in a plane, ...
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How would a game of (American) football work on a space station generating artificial gravity by using spin? [closed]

Using rotation to generate artificial gravity is pretty common in sci-fi. I know the TV show "The Expanse" features it on the Mormon's vessel. I also remember a small-scale rotating space ...
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Why do we consider $L^2/(2mr^2)$ part of effective potential energy?

The energy of a particle under the action of a radial conservative force is given by $$E = \frac{1}{2}m\left(\frac{dr}{dt}\right)^2+ \frac{L^2}{2mr^2} + U(r),$$ where the last two terms provide the ...
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Centrifugal Force & Rotating Frames [duplicate]

In Thornton & Marion's Classical Dynamics, the following relation is given for the rate of change of an objects position in the two coordinate systems (according to the picture shown at the bottom)...
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Why does the amplitude of a pendulum increases when continuously changing the rope length? [duplicate]

The simplistic answer is that I'm pumping energy into the system thus the velocity increases and so is the amplitude. I'm more interested in understanding it from forces considerations.
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Rewriting the Lagrangian in terms of the constant(s) of motion doesn't work. Why? (spherical pendulum) [duplicate]

I am trying to solve for the equations of motion to simulate a spherical pendulum. I decided to use the spherical coordinates. The Lagrange equation is, $$ L=T-V=\frac{1}{2}m\left(l\dot\theta\right)^2+...
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If you have a conserved quantity, why can't you use it to eliminate a variable in the Lagrangian? [duplicate]

Suppose, for example, we take a particle in polar coordinates $(r, \theta)$ with a central force, so $U = U(r).$ The Lagrangian is $$\mathcal{L} = \dfrac12 m (\dot{r}^2 + (r\dot{\theta})^2) - U(r).$$ ...
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Lagrangian, central forces and conservation of angular momentum [duplicate]

When studying central forces it is possible to propose the Lagrangian: $$ L = T-U=\frac{1}{2}m \dot{r}^2+\frac{1}{2}mr^2 \dot{\theta}^2 - U(r)$$ Then we can solve the equation of motions for $\...
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Deriving effective potential energy from the Lagrangian of a two-body system [duplicate]

I'm having some issues understanding how the effective potential energy of a two-body system is derived from the Lagrangian of the system. Specifically my issue is with one step... Suppose we are ...
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Acceleration in plane polar coordinates [duplicate]

When we express acceleration in plane polar coordinates, we can find that $\vec{a}= \left(\ddot{r} - r \dot{\theta}^2\right)\hat{r} + \left(r \ddot{\theta}-2\dot{r}\dot{\theta}\right)\hat{\theta}$. ...
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Significance of centrifugal potential

While dealing with central forces (purely using newtonian mechanics) I've came across this result: $$U_\text{eff}(r)=\frac{l^2}{2\mu r^2}+ U(r) \, .$$ I'm not at all fluent with the lagrangian ...
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How can the centripetal force lead to objects flying apart?

I don't understand how the centripetal force, which always points to the center of our circular motion can cause this scenario: We have a big stone which spins very fast, so fast that a part breaks ...
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Shape of water in rotating bucket

I need to show that the surface of water in a bucket rotating with constant angular velocity will have parabolic shape. I'm quite confused by this problem, but here's what I did: $$\vec{F}_{cf} + \...
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Lagrangian of an effective potential

If there is a system, described by an Lagrangian $\mathcal{L}$ of the form $$\mathcal{L} = T-V = \frac{m}{2}\left(\dot{r}^2+r^2\dot{\phi}^2\right) + \frac{k}{r},\tag{1}$$ where $T$ is the kinetic ...
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