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Confusion of variable vs path in Euler-Lagrange equation, Hamiltonian mechanics, and Lagrangian mechanics

In Lagrangian mechanics we have the Euler-Lagrange equations, which are defined as $$\frac{d}{dt}\Bigg(\frac{\partial L}{\partial \dot{q}_j}\Bigg) - \frac{\partial L}{\partial q_j} = 0,\quad j = 1, \...
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What is the most general transformation between Lagrangians which give the same equation of motion?

This question is made up from 5 (including the main titular question) very closely related questions, so I didn't bother to ask them as different/followup questions one after another. On trying to ...
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Obtaining the critical solution for a functional

So, I was trying to calculate the critical solution $y = y(x)$ for the following functional: $$J[y] = \int_{0}^{1} (y'^{\: 2} + y^2 + 2ye^x)dx$$ and a professor of mine said I should use conservation ...
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Variational Principle for Free Particle Motion (Relativistic)

This is the same problem as someone asked before: Problem understanding something from the variational principle for free particle motion (James Hartle's book, chapter 5) The question below: Here ...
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Least action principle and uniform motion

I'm trying to apply the principle of least action to the case of a uniform motion under no potential. Assume the object starts with initial velocity $v_0$, moving from point $A$ to point $B$. We know ...
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Number of classical paths linking $(x_1, t_1)$ and $(x_2, t_2)$ [duplicate]

In classical mechanics, the least action principle states that the real path linnking $(x_1, t_1)$ and $(x_2, t_2)$ is an extremal of the action functional. The question is, how many such solutions ...
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Confusion in derivation of Euler-Lagrange equations

Here's a screenshot of derivation of Euler-Lagrange from feynman lecture https://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/II_19.html My doubt is in the last paragraph. I get that $\eta = 0$ at both ends, but ...
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How did Landau & Lifshitz (Mechanics) get Equation 2.5?

I understood everything in Landau & Lifshitz's mechanics book until Equation 2.4,but I'm not sure what he means when he says "effecting the variation" and gets Equation 2.5. Can anyone ...
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Confusion on variation of $\dot{q}$ while applying Hamilton Principle to Lagrangian Mechanics

We restrict that $$\delta q\mid _{t_{1}}= \delta q\mid _{t_{2}}=0$$ while applying Hamilton Principle ($\delta\int_{t_{1}}^{t_{2}}Ldt=0$) to get Euler-Lagrange’s Equations. Hence adding a $$\frac{d}{...
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Euler-Lagrange intuition

We know from euler-lagrange, that $S$ should be minimized, which in turn means (KE-PE) should be minimized at each smallest interval along the path. I'm not trying to understand the math here, it's ...
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Is Hamilton’s principle valid for systems that are not monogenic?

I have read in Goldstein that Hamilton’s principle works only for monogenic systems. Is it true? I thought that the action principle is universal?
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A step in the derivation of the Euler-Lagrange equations using Hamilton's Principle

I am going through the derivation of the Euler-Lagrange equations from Hamilton's principle following Landau and Lifshitz Volume 1. We start by writing the variation in the action as, $$\delta S = \...
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Deriving Hamilton's Principle from Lagrange's Equations

I'm trying to derive Hamilton's Principle from Lagrange's Equations, as I've heard they're logically equivalent statements, and am stuck on a final step. For simplicity, assume we're dealing with a ...
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Gauge Symmetry of the Lagrangian

My teacher told the following statement to me during office hours. Is it correct and if so, how could one go about proving it? Given a material system subject to holonomic and smooth constraints ...
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Using the principle of inertia to motivate the principle of least action?

Can we motivate the principle of least action with the principle of inertia that causes a mass particle to resist changes in its momentum? After all, the principle of inertia is the starting point and ...
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