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Least action principle : is $ \delta \frac{dx}{dt} = \frac{d \delta x}{dt} $ always true?

(Just some recalls) We have an action on which we want to apply Least action principle. $$ S=\int_{t_i}^{t_f} L(q,\dot{q},t)dt$$ We assume that $t \mapsto q(t)$ is the function that will extremise ...
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When can one omit a total time derivative in the Lagrangian formulation?

I am studying Lagrangian and Hamiltonian mechanics and i am using Landau & Lifshitz and Goldstein books. Both of them state that a modified lagrangian $$L'=L+\frac{df}{dt}$$ gives the same ...
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Derivation Of Euler-Lagrange Equation [closed]

I want the proof of this relation in details, $$ \frac{\rm d}{{\rm d}t}\left(\frac{\partial\vec{r}_v}{\partial q_\alpha}\right)=\frac{\partial\vec{\dot{r}_v}}{\partial q_\alpha} $$
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Trouble understanding Landau & Lifshitz writing about Lagrangians and Galilean Relativity [duplicate]

We have two inertial coordinate systems, $K'$ and $K$. $K$ is moving with infinitesimal velocity ${\epsilon}$ relative to $K'$. Using Galilean relativity we can transform this into $v'=v+{\epsilon}$. ...
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Lagrangian formalism (demonstration)

My question is about the multiplicity of the Lagrangian to a Physics system. I pretend to demonstrate the following proposition: For a system with $n$ degrees of freedom, written by the Lagrangian ...
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What is the function type of the generalized momentum?

Let $$L:{\mathbb R}^n\times {\mathbb R}^n\times {\mathbb R}\to {\mathbb R}$$ denote the Lagrangian (it should be differentiable) of a classical system with $n$ spatial coordinates. In the action $...
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Show $\frac{\partial T}{\partial \dot q_j} = m_i \dot r_i^T\frac{\dot r_i }{\partial \dot q_j} $ [closed]

This is a basic result in lagrangian mecanics. Let $T$ be the kinetic energy, $r_i$ be the position of the $i^{th}$ particle in the system I need to show $$\frac{\partial T}{\partial \dot q_j} = \frac{...
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Trouble with Landau & Lifshitz's expansion of the Lagrangian with respect to $\epsilon$ and $v$ [duplicate]

Hello I have a quick question on what I have been reading in Landau & Lifshitz's book on classical mechanics. I am in the very beginning of the book and I am having trouble with his derivation on ...
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Lagrangian Mechanics - Commutativity Rule $\frac{d}{dt}\delta q=\delta \frac{dq}{dt} $

I am reading about Lagrangian mechanics. At some point the difference between the temporal derivative of a variation and variation of the temporal derivative is discussed. The fact that the two are ...
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Clarification on a Goldstein formula steps (classical mechanics)

At page 20 of Classical Mechanics' Goldstein (Third edition), there are these two steps given between eqs. (1.51) and (1.52): $$\sum_i m_i \ddot {\bf r}_i \cdot \frac{\partial {\bf r_i}}{ \partial ...
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Calculus of variations -- how does it make sense to vary the position and the velocity independently?

In the calculus of variations, particularly Lagrangian mechanics, people often say we vary the position and the velocity independently. But velocity is the derivative of position, so how can you treat ...
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