Timeline for Some improvements to blockquotes
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| Jul 4, 2020 at 21:58 | comment | added | Sebastiano | My humble opinion: the previous backgrounds for every community were very good. Actually this style it is really very ugly. Is it possible to have a yellow or gray color? meta.stackexchange.com/questions/343919/… | |
| Jun 3, 2020 at 17:31 | comment | added | Mari-Lou A Слава Україні | @VonC I said they didn't improve their/my experience, they work just fine if you like ugly grey bars. But when you have a long post consisting of many different sources, it all begins to look alike. When texts with block quotes were shaded it was easier to differentiate them from the author's words. I have tried, honestly, to accept the new block quotes but it's made EL&U and ELL look less impressive, pages have less impact. You can read something and easily ignore the bar and be fooled into thinking the content is original. | |
| Jun 3, 2020 at 17:00 | comment | added | VonC | @Mari-LouA I have noticed. And the last quotes I have used (stackoverflow.com/a/25795236/6309) seem to work just fine for me. | |
| Jun 3, 2020 at 16:37 | comment | added | Mari-Lou A Слава Україні | Three months later...I'm not sure whether ardent SO users have noticed, or if they really ever use block quotes, whenever I visit it seems that code blocks dominate the field, for obvious reasons. But in my opinion, the changes to blockquotes have not improved the experience of many users who contribute regularly on the SE humanities. Have you considered polling their opinions, or do theirs not count (for obvious reasons)? | |
| Apr 29, 2020 at 20:52 | answer | added | ChrisW | timeline score: 3 | |
| Apr 29, 2020 at 17:03 | answer | added | Joel Coehoorn | timeline score: 21 | |
| Apr 20, 2020 at 3:37 | comment | added | Pandya | Revert this change if you concern feedback | |
| Mar 27, 2020 at 14:06 | comment | added | Berriel | @AaronShekey please, undo this change. At least on SO, this has not had a good impact. | |
| Mar 22, 2020 at 19:24 | review | Suggested edits | |||
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| Mar 20, 2020 at 10:45 | answer | added | Zoe - Save the data dump | timeline score: 16 | |
| Mar 19, 2020 at 23:46 | answer | added | Steve Bennett | timeline score: 18 | |
| Mar 19, 2020 at 23:42 | comment | added | illustro | @EiríkrÚtlendi and for one of the sites it is perceived to be a problem with (RPG.SE) it wasn't actually a problem and the removal of background colour on the block quotes causes a significant issue | |
| Mar 19, 2020 at 20:32 | answer | added | bobobobo | timeline score: 8 | |
| Mar 18, 2020 at 4:08 | comment | added | Scott - Слава Україні |
I know most people usually create block quotes with “>”, and I can imagine that this suggestion will not be very popular, but: can we expand the allowed HTML to include <blockquote bgcolor="#FBF2D4" bar="#FFEB8E" thickness="2">?
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| Mar 17, 2020 at 21:48 | answer | added | Earthliŋ | timeline score: 31 | |
| Mar 17, 2020 at 17:43 | comment | added | Eiríkr Útlendi | Who is this guy, and why does he have the ability to change site-wide style without consulting with each community? This is presented as if it's been done with due consideration, but from my perspective, this is a baffling unannounced change. Reading the post above, it sounds like 1) this fixes perceived style issues with two communities, at the expense of disruption for everybody else, and 2) it's justified as if the yellow is problematic for "site theming" or something -- and yet, every site has a big yellow block at the top right on the main landing page. This doesn't smell right. | |
| Mar 16, 2020 at 12:37 | comment | added | Joachim | If this 'question' is indeed intended for discussion, why have these changes already been made, while the top answers here disagree, and for good reasons? | |
| Mar 15, 2020 at 21:00 | comment | added | Richard | @pkamb - I'm tempted to put the word "improvements" into scare quotes since they're not actually an improvement. | |
| Mar 15, 2020 at 20:07 | comment | added | pkamb | These changes are not an improvement. A contrasting background color was essential for differentiating quoted text and error messages when reading an answer. | |
| Mar 14, 2020 at 23:55 | comment | added | Richard | The new blockquotes look bloody awful. You can barely see them | |
| Mar 14, 2020 at 21:21 | answer | added | chqrlie | timeline score: 25 | |
| Mar 14, 2020 at 12:02 | comment | added | Martin Argerami | Oh surprise, SE not listening to its users. Eight upvoted answers, with only two in favor and five against, with the top answers against. This constant simulation of listening to the community but really doing whatever they want is really tiring by now. | |
| Mar 13, 2020 at 11:22 | answer | added | Wrzlprmft | timeline score: 26 | |
| Mar 13, 2020 at 7:43 | answer | added | bad_coder | timeline score: 27 | |
| Mar 12, 2020 at 16:19 | comment | added | hkotsubo | The most upvoted answers below are all against the change, but SE changed it anyway. It gives the impression that this question was posted just to pretend the company is listening to the community, because they'd do this change regardless of the community's feedback. | |
| Mar 12, 2020 at 1:05 | comment | added | Mazura |
So now it's an indent bar, reminiscent of reddit-(at)me-lengthy-whitespace-screen-stealing-garbage-comment-threads ; there's no 'block'. Give us inline block quotes that aren't in code snippet font, and stop changing things we didn't ask to be changed. "this will be frustrating to Machavity" and a thousand other people, assuming there's an active user for every ten lurkers (it's at +100 atm).
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| Mar 10, 2020 at 18:47 | comment | added | root | Currently there's a problem: Click on the spoiler (this unhides the text) - it will look the same as a quote. That's bad. | |
| Mar 10, 2020 at 16:53 | comment | added | Exempt-Medic | Will this change eventually roll out to the mobile version of the site as well? Currently on mobile versions (both phone and the mobile version on a desktop) the blockquotes are still the yellow rectangles | |
| Mar 10, 2020 at 15:57 | comment | added | allo | What about giving different levels of quotation different colors? Somemail clients do this and it is very useful for following a thread with nested quotes. | |
| Mar 10, 2020 at 8:22 | comment | added | Pandya | Can a particular community have different design for blockquotes? | |
| Mar 10, 2020 at 0:17 | comment | added | Mark Johnson | Having everything white (which for peaple with bad eyes is very glaring) makes it difficult to distinguish. No objection to a black bar instead of dark yellow, but the yellow background is better to find swiftly when searching for a quote (no need to squint to look for the dark bar among the glaring white background). | |
| Mar 9, 2020 at 23:15 | answer | added | Mari-Lou A Слава Україні | timeline score: 39 | |
| Mar 9, 2020 at 21:05 | comment | added | Maarten Bodewes | I don't think that this post shows any improvement on how the community gets involved into decisions. Now we are asked our opinion, and it is then simply ignored by the SE team developer. Being asked is a step forward, then doing nothing with the top upvoted answer is not. | |
| Mar 9, 2020 at 20:57 | answer | added | pkamb | timeline score: -7 | |
| Mar 9, 2020 at 20:45 | comment | added | pkamb | Yellow was GOOD. Color was needed to actually differentiate quotes. Quotes are now very hard to identify. | |
| Mar 9, 2020 at 19:17 | comment | added | TylerH | Also, why is there a code-highlighted "blockquote" randomly in the post? | |
| Mar 9, 2020 at 19:16 | comment | added | TylerH | @AaronShekey regarding the edit, did you mean to reference Sonic instead of Machavity when you mentioned 'differentiation*? The reasoning seems to speak to Sonic's concerns, not Machavity's concerns. | |
| Mar 9, 2020 at 17:42 | answer | added | illustro | timeline score: 102 | |
| Mar 9, 2020 at 17:30 | comment | added | illustro | For a site like rpg.stackexchange.com having quotes be differentiated strongly from regular text is particularly important, as it clearly delineates what is quoted from a sourcebook and what is the answerer's or querant's content. This change removes that difference and makes it much harder for people reading the questions and answers to differentiate the two | |
| Mar 9, 2020 at 17:19 | comment | added | MrWhite | Errrm, the quote styling has suddenly changed to a single gray line on the left edge and indented - I can hardly tell this apart from normal text when skimming a long question/answer - please change it back! | |
| Mar 5, 2020 at 20:04 | comment | added | Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog | Yeah, that makes sense. Opening an image editing program every single time one wants to include a screenshot in their post is a big burden compared to the current method of simply inserting a quote. How about this: add a gray border/background (similar to spoilers) to a given quote if the sole thing it contains is an image, and no background if it consists of things other than an image? This will be preferable as it also won't break existing posts that use quotes to border images. (Also, if you could please use an @ notification to make sure I'm notified of your comments.) | |
| Mar 4, 2020 at 21:08 | comment | added | Aaron Shekey | Sadly, there's no good way of adding borders to images in Markdown. If you absolutely need to add borders, you can add it to the image itself but that's so far from ideal that I don't even like typing it, haha | |
| Mar 4, 2020 at 0:59 | comment | added | Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog | With regard to your edit: I do agree that using quote markup to border or highlight images is an incorrect use of quote markup. I also do agree that we shouldn't place borders around all images. However, can it please be made possible to optionally add a border around images if someone likes? That doesn't have to be through quote markup. | |
| Mar 3, 2020 at 23:55 | history | edited | Aaron Shekey | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Feb 26, 2020 at 21:46 | comment | added | Andrew Leach | @tchrist I'm afraid I don't think it looks fine. I'm not sure why; text size perhaps? Amount of indent? However, since there are already custom styles for designed sites, I don't see why this element can't be in the customisation. Yellow isn't good for ELU, but no colour difference is worse by quite a long way. | |
| Feb 20, 2020 at 17:20 | comment | added | Victor Stafusa | Indented spoiler blocks will remain broken? | |
| Feb 20, 2020 at 14:55 | history | edited | Rubiksmoose | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Feb 20, 2020 at 3:43 | answer | added | cubick | timeline score: 28 | |
| Feb 20, 2020 at 2:41 | answer | added | user1306322 | timeline score: 3 | |
| Feb 20, 2020 at 0:40 | comment | added | tchrist | @Catija Thanks, that looks fine. | |
| Feb 20, 2020 at 0:28 | comment | added | Catija | @tchrist Old vs new (ignore the line lengths, my windows weren't the same width) i.sstatic.net/npLwJ.png (note, the italics are user-added). | |
| Feb 20, 2020 at 0:27 | comment | added | tchrist | @Catija Please show us what this would look like on a serif site that has its own special background color like ELU. | |
| Feb 19, 2020 at 23:50 | comment | added | V2Blast | I upvoted the "question" despite disagreeing with the proposed change, to make sure more people see the post and are able to provide feedback. Also, thanks for bringing this proposal here to discuss it first! :) | |
| Feb 19, 2020 at 21:24 | comment | added | jscs | Yes, please! Looks great! | |
| Feb 19, 2020 at 20:57 | answer | added | Machavity | timeline score: 184 | |
| Feb 19, 2020 at 20:54 | comment | added | Machavity | It's like Stack Fighter II | |
| Feb 19, 2020 at 20:46 | answer | added | Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog | timeline score: 26 | |
| Feb 19, 2020 at 20:41 | comment | added | Catija | Oh, and on hover, spoiler text or images appear over the grey background, so the revealed spoiler is distinct from a quote. | |
| Feb 19, 2020 at 20:41 | comment | added | Luuklag | Please post new issues in a separate bug report @Catija ;) | |
| Feb 19, 2020 at 20:40 | history | edited | Catija | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Feb 19, 2020 at 20:38 | comment | added | Catija | @Luuklag We're having some oddness in the featuring tool and we need Teresa's post to stick there for a bit - for some reason it's not displaying two posts from MSE at the moment. | |
| Feb 19, 2020 at 20:37 | comment | added | Luuklag | P.s. how about featuring this? | |
| Feb 19, 2020 at 20:36 | comment | added | Luuklag | Too bad your spoilers are actual images, fooled me, especially since I'm on a mobile divice. Where is the hover on that? | |
| Feb 19, 2020 at 20:31 | history | asked | Aaron Shekey | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
