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Permutation model in which infinite sets are weakly Dedekind-infinite but not Dedekind-infinite

I’m trying to create a permutation model $N$ in which every infinite set is weakly Dedekind-infinite (i.e. for every infinite set $A\in N$ there is a surjective map $f:A\rightarrow\omega$ in $N$), but ...
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How to create infinitely many disjoint sets from infinitely many sets

Suppose we have a countably infinite set $X$ and we have (countably) infinitely many subsets $A_1,A_2,\cdots\subseteq X$ which are non-empty and distinct (i.e. for any $i\neq j$ either $A_i\setminus ...
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Can every set in the Von-Neumann universe be obtained from finite ZFC steps [closed]

For me, ZFC feels like saying either something is a set, or from a set, we know another thing is a set. On the other hand, something like doing the powerset operations for $\omega$ a number of times ...
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order property vs. antisymmetric property

The definition of order property is well known:for a first-order theory $T$ the order property means that for some first-order formula $\phi(\bar{x},\bar{y})$ linearly orders in $M$ some infinite $\...
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Resources for "Bell Machover"

Recently, I've been reading through A Course In Mathematical Logic by John Bell and Moshé Machover. However, it's not always the easiest book to understand. What might be some good supplements to have ...
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Are there simple examples of two distinct transitive sets that are elementary embeddable in each other? [closed]

This question had be edited altogether in a more concise manner. Suppose $M$ and $N$ are transitive sets such that there exist elementary embeddings $f:(M,\in)\to(N,\in)$ and $g:(N,\in)\to (M,\in)$. ...
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Hyper-extensions of Hom space

We fix an ultrafilter $\mathcal{F}$ of $\mathbb{N}$ which contains the cofinite filter. Let $A,B$ be sets and ${}^{*}A,{}^{*}B$ their hyper-extensions. Then is $$ {\rm Hom}({}^{*}A,{}^{*}B) $$ equal ...
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elementary embeddings $j$ in set theory with $V$ and $M$

I'm confused by a variety of elementary non-trivial elementary embedings $j$ we might have. There are 9 "syntactical" possiblities;Here $M$ is a transitive model. I'll name them with a wish ...
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Cardinality of integer parts of real closed fields

Every real closed field $R$ has in integer part $I$. That is, $I$ is a discrete ordered subring of $R$ such that for each $x \in R$ there is $z \in I$ such that $z \leq x < z + 1$. If $R$ is ...
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Projecting Skolem's Paradox Upwards

My understanding of the resolution of Skolem's Paradox is that although in a countable model of ZFC there does not exist a bijection between a countable set and its powerset, we can still construct a ...
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Universal quantifier over an uncountable set

To prove that a segment has the same number of points with half a segment one might say that one can find a bijective function mapping every point from the segment to the half segment. Let' say: $$\...
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Are there any interesting non standard models of $Q$?

I've encountered a few of the models of Robinson arithmetic here a quick list: $\mathbb{N}\cup {\infty}$ (used to show Robinson arithmetic has a non standard model) $\mathbb{N}\cup \{a,b\}$ where the ...
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Cardinality of the ranks of the constructible universe

First time I encounter the Constructible universe $L$ and the definition given in Jech is the following: $L_0=\emptyset$, $L_{\alpha+1}=\operatorname{def}(L_\alpha)$, $L_\lambda=\bigcup_{\alpha<\...
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Infinity in ZFC vs infinity in the metatheory

I was reading about different ways to formalize the notion of infinity in ZFC. The classic axiom is of course to have the existence of an inductive set, but you can also assert the existence of a ...
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In what sense is logical entailment a set-theoretic relation?

In set theory a relation is a subset of a Cartesian product. I suppose that in logics this product is the Cartesian square of the powerset of all propositions(?). Semantic/model-theoretic entailment ...
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