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I was trying to find the nature (maxima, minima, inflection points) of the function $$\frac{x^5}{20}-\frac{x^4}{12}+5=0$$

But I faced a conceptual problem. It is given in the solution to the problem that $f''(0)=0$ and $f'''(0) \neq 0$ so $0$ is not an inflection point. But why should we check the third derivative?

Isn't checking first and second derivative sufficient for verifying an inflection point ? Why must the higher order odd derivatives be zero for an inflection point?

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  • $\begingroup$ What is your definition of inflection point? I think that this is important. $\endgroup$
    – Crostul
    Commented Feb 5, 2016 at 12:02
  • $\begingroup$ Where curve changes its concavity... $\endgroup$
    – user220382
    Commented Feb 5, 2016 at 12:04
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    $\begingroup$ In this case, $\;f''(0)=f'''(0)=0\;$ , but $\;f^{(iv)}(0)=-2\neq0\implies x=0\;$ is not an extremum point of $\;f'(x)\;\implies x=0\;$ is not an inflextion point. $\endgroup$
    – DonAntonio
    Commented Jan 12, 2019 at 21:58

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An inflection point is where a curve changes from concave to convex or vice versa. There are two types of inflection points: stationary and non-stationary. Stationary means that at this point the slope (thus $f'$) is $0$. These points are also called saddle-points.

Non-stationary inflection points are different. They are where the slope is at maximum, i.e. you have to maximize $f'$ in order to find them. You know from caculus that you need to look at both the $f'$ and $f''$ derivatives to determine whether a $f$ has a maximum. But now, since we look for maxima of $f'$, we have to look at $f''$ and $f'''$.

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  • $\begingroup$ Wait a second.For $f'(x)=0 , f''(x)=0 $ and $f'''(x) \neq 0$ tells us that it is a stationary turning point or non stationary? $\endgroup$
    – user220382
    Commented Feb 5, 2016 at 12:10
  • $\begingroup$ $f'' = 0$ must be too, else it's a maximum/minimum $\endgroup$
    – adjan
    Commented Feb 5, 2016 at 12:13
  • $\begingroup$ Sorry sorry.Look at my question now.Please. $\endgroup$
    – user220382
    Commented Feb 5, 2016 at 12:14
  • $\begingroup$ i meant, it's stationary, else it's a maximum/minimum $\endgroup$
    – adjan
    Commented Feb 5, 2016 at 12:15
  • $\begingroup$ Where did you find these called saddle points? I've often seen that term used for functions of two variables; never for just one. $\endgroup$ Commented Dec 1, 2019 at 12:59
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It is given in the solution to the problem that $f''(0)=0$ and $f'''(0) \neq 0$ so $0$ is not an inflection point.

That makes no sense.

If $f''(a)=0$ and $f'''(a) \ne0$ (i.e. $f'''(a)$ is actually some well defined number and that number is not $0$), and then there is an inflection point at $a.$

But if $f''(a)=0$ and $f'''(a)=0,$ that information does not justify such a conclusion. In some cases where this happens there is an inflection point at $a$ and in some cases there is not.

To see this, assume $f''(a)=0$ and $f'''(a)>0.$ Then there is some open interval about $a$ in which $f''$ is positive to the right of $a$ and negative to the left. That means $f''$ changes sign at $a,$ so there is an inflection point.

And similarly if $f'''(a)<0.$

But $f(x)=x^4$ has $f''(0)=0$ and $f'''(0)=0$ and there is no inflection point anywhere, whereas $f(x) = x^5$ has $f''(0)=0$ and $f'''(0)=0$ and there is an inflection point at $0.$

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It depends on your definition of inflection point. You have given this as

"Where curve changes its concavity".

In this case checking $f'''(x)$ is not necessary since for example,

$$f(x) = x^3 \text{ gives } f'''(x) = 6 \neq 0 $$ however $x = 0$ is an inflection point since there is a change in concavity here.

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The given solution appears to be partially incorrect.

In fact \begin{align} f''(x) &= x^3 - x^2 = (x - 1)x^2 & f''(0) &= 0 & f''(1) &= 0 \\ f'''(x) &= 3x^2 - 2x & f'''(0) &= 0& f'''(1) &= 1, \\ \end{align} and $f''$ has a double root (and local maximum) at $x=0$ and a single root at $x=1.$ At $x=0$, $f''$ is negative both on the left side and on the nearby right side of $x=0,$ but $f''$ is negative to the left of $x=1$ and positive to right, so $f$ has an inflection point at $x=1$ and not at $x=0.$

The value of the third derivative gives useful information at $x=1$ but not so much at $x=0.$ As noted in a comment, however, the fourth derivative at $x=0$ provides some useful information.

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