0

Inspired by this poorly worded question on graphicdesign.stackexchange:

I want to remove a text watermark

Is illegal to remove watermarks?


Off the top of my head I can think of 3 possible legitimate reasons:

  1. The watermark was created by the author who accidentally deletes the original. Now he want's to know how to remove the watermark.
  2. The work is abandoned copyright (grey area?) For example: The watermark could be a logo from a screenshot from an old TV network that no longer exists. Question asker could ask how to remove that watermark for personal non-commercial reasons.
  3. Someone who just wants to learn a skill. IAMAL so the following statement may be incorrect. Correct me if I'm wrong. It would not be considered copyright infringement if someone downloads a sample watermarked image just for the purpose to remove the watermark. After removing the watermark the image is immediately deleted. The image isn't technically being used in any original work. Downloading a publicly displayed watermarked image to your desktop is not illegal as far as I know. Modifying it to learn a skill and then deleting it isn't illegal either. So, no law is being broken.

I think #3 might be the weakest argument I can make because I'm not a (US) copyright expert. However, I still believe there are some legitimate reasons to allow watermark removal questions like this. (If the question isn't worded as poorly)


For an example of abandoned copyright I have the following source. I know it doesn't have to do with art specifically but it proves that copyrighted material can be abandoned and even given a free pass to some extent. (again in my favorite color grey)

The Internet Archive has created an archive of what it describes as "vintage software", as a way to preserve them. The project advocated for an exemption from the United States Digital Millennium Copyright Act to permit them to bypass copy protection, which was approved in 2003 for a period of three years. The exemption was renewed in 2006, and as of 27 October 2009, has been indefinitely extended pending further rulemakings (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abandonware)

4
  • Feel free to edit my question in any way at all that you think would make it worded or organized better. Commented Jan 26, 2018 at 18:10
  • 1
    Your example of abandoned copyright is clearly not valid, when the explanation of its origin and use is for software only. You have several other misconceptions about what does and does not breach copyright, which make me think you did not read the basics and should probably browse copyright a lot more.
    – user4657
    Commented Jan 26, 2018 at 20:54
  • If you redistribute copyrighted material without permission it is still infringement whether you remove watermarks or not.
    – Brandin
    Commented Oct 10, 2018 at 5:10
  • If The Internet Archive did receive specific permission to distribute some works, or if the copyright holders of works choose not to litigate against The Internet Archive, this does not mean the copyrights were abandoned.
    – Brandin
    Commented Oct 10, 2018 at 5:12

3 Answers 3

3

From the perspective of US law:

Scenario 1: Removing the watermark is perfectly legal, obviously. You own the copyright.

Scenario 2: Abandonware is not really a thing in the US when it comes to copyright (and the Wikipedia article you linked says this.) Even if the company went out of business, the copyright almost certainly went to somebody - the former owners, the creditors, etc. As far as the Internet Archive goes, they are taking advantage of an exemption in the DMCA's anti-circumvention provisions, along with the copyright exemption found in 17 USC § 108. But both of these exemptions require you to be a "library or archive" to take advantage of them, and you are not a library or archive, so you cannot take advantage of either.

As a practical matter, if the software is really abandoned it's unlikely that anyone will actually come after you for infringement, but that's not quite the same as it being legal - you could be on the hook for up to $150,000 in statutory damages per work infringed, if the owner does sue you.

You could attempt to claim fair use, of course. If the image is abandoned you might get a favorable result on factor 4 of the fair use test (the effect on the market for the original) since there's no market if nobody can find the owner. But it would depend on the other factors; that alone wouldn't get you fair use.

Scenario 3: I'm not sure where you get the idea that downloading a copyrighted image to your desktop is somehow protected. It isn't automatically legal to save a copy of something just because it's on the Internet. And the existence of a watermark may indicate that someone wanted to prevent the file from being copied.

The website containing the image will likely have terms of use, which may indicate whether or not you're allowed to make a copy. For example, Stack Exchange's TOS says in part:

Subscriber may download or copy the Content, and other items displayed on the Network for download, for personal use, provided that Subscriber maintains all copyright and other notices contained in such Content.

3
  • I think the watermark means the copyright holder was Ok with me having a copy with watermark, but wasn't Ok with me having a copy without watermark. For example, I have seen wedding photographers handing out copies with watermark for free, and charging for copies without watermark.
    – gnasher729
    Commented Oct 11, 2018 at 8:00
  • 1
    @gnasher729 It could mean that sometimes, but it's not safe to assume that, either. Certainly the wedding photographer would not be OK with it if you bought none of the photographs and just made copies of the watermarked photos.
    – D M
    Commented Oct 11, 2018 at 22:31
  • I mean, doesn't everyone modify their browser to send a TOS to the website they connect to? "The server agrees to license any response to any https, http or similar request to the user of the browser for any use whatsoever".
    – Yakk
    Commented Aug 1, 2023 at 17:58
1

Removing a watermark is essentially creating a modified version of a work. This is inherently infringing unless:

  • the work is not copyrighted (unlikely for a watermarked digital work, although a digital version of a public domain work that is a straight transcription or slavish copy with no added content or formatting might have no valid copyright); or
  • you have permission to modify the work, perhaps because it is under a license which allows modification, such as a CC-BY license; or
  • creating the modified version is a fair use (in US law only); or
  • creating the modified version is permitted by some specific exemption in the copyright law of your jurisdiction (unlikely to apply here).

Distributing the un-watermarked version will be a further infringement unless one of the above circumstances applies.

  • In the original question's scenario 1 the modifier has permission, as s/he holds the copyright.
  • In scenario 2 fair use might apply, but probably not.
  • In scenario 3 fair use again might apply.
0

According to Section 1202 of the U.S. Copyright Act:

No person shall, without the authority of the copyright owner or the law—

(1) intentionally remove or alter any copyright management information,

(2) distribute or import for distribution copyright management information knowing that the copyright management information has been removed or altered without authority of the copyright owner or the law

I don't know of any rulings that point to watermarks specifically but as per subsection C, "copyright management information" is defined to include the following, which indicate watermarks are valid:

...
2) The name of, and other identifying information about, the author of a work.
...
7) Identifying numbers or symbols referring to such information or links to such information

You may elect to recover either actual damages or statutory damages:

Except as otherwise provided in this title, a person committing a violation of section 1201 or 1202 is liable for either

(A) the actual damages and any additional profits of the violator

(B) At any time before final judgment is entered, a complaining party may elect to recover an award of statutory damages for each violation of section 1202 in the sum of not less than $2,500 or more than $25,000.

1
  • "copyright management information" is defined explicitly, so this answer would be much improved if it offered a more explicit line of reasoning leading to the conclusion that a watermark is copyright management information. In particular, after scanning the definition, I suspect that it depends on the specific text of the watermark. For example, if it's a television station logo when the station does not own the copyright, it probably doesn't qualify.
    – phoog
    Commented May 24, 2020 at 17:47

You must log in to answer this question.

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged .