What kind of valve is the best one, a Presta valve (6mm) or a Schrader valve (8mm). Which has the best reliability, which one is easiest to fix a flat on?
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Presta's main benefit is more about how the valve functions, in regards to getting pumped up to higher pressures. Because the stem of the valve needs pressure in the pump head to get high enough before it pushes the valve stem in, and start flowing air into the tire, when you try to get to 120 to 160 lbs of pressure it works better than a Schrader valve where the valve stem is depressed the whole time, back pressure can leak out.
Otherwise I would say tomato - tomahto (potato - potaato?)
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5I would add that Schrader valves are better where it's important that you be able to use a gas station pump. Commented Aug 25, 2010 at 22:40
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@neilfein: If you have presta valves, you should definitely carry an adapter so that you can use normal pumps. If not, you aren't properly equipped! Commented Aug 26, 2010 at 13:54
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1@neilfein I use presta, and picked up a valve adapter for under a buck. keep it in my panier in case I need to use gas station pumps (or other non-presta pumps). works great. weighs maybe a gram. Commented Sep 20, 2010 at 2:55
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3I have read this a few places and I am not sure why people are saying that you need air pressure to depress a Schrader valve. There might be some pumps that do this, but all the pumps I have ever owned use a small rod to push the core down, absolutely independent of air pressure. Commented Jun 1, 2012 at 7:16
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1@BillyNair We are agreed. Car tire style (Schrader) need something to depress the valve. The thinner racing tire style (Presta) use air pressure to depress it on each pump.– geoffcCommented Jul 25, 2013 at 0:59
- smaller hole in the rim is good (presta +)
- schrader has piece that inserts into the valve (screws in) with a spring mechanism to seal it - these parts sometimes fail (schrader -)
- presta uses tire pressure to seal it (presta +)
- rocks can lodge in uncapped schrader and cause leaks (schrader -)
- presta does not need a valve cap to keep rocks out (presta +)
- presta has a locknut to prevent valve movement (presta +)
- You can prep a presta valve tire for installation without a pump - using your mouth (presta +)
Presta is better but is insignificant for most people. Use the tube that fits your rim.
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1Continental makes a schrader tube with a lock nut on the valve stem - it works great. I wish this would become standard practice!– DQdlMCommented Sep 3, 2011 at 19:57
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5to be fair "the Presta core bolt will sometimes get bent and make it difficult or impossible to open the valve (Presta-)" And... I use my mouth to blow up a schrader all the time!! just push the core in with your canine... Commented Jun 1, 2012 at 7:08
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6Too many broken presta core bolts. No good! (presta -) Commented Oct 29, 2012 at 20:42
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5Schrader valves are compatible with car tire pumps (schrader +)– GordonMCommented Oct 30, 2012 at 17:15
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1You are fell in love with presta. But there are the same amount of pros for schradder and cons for presta as well. Commented Oct 9, 2016 at 15:33
My conclusion after many years of using not two, but three types of valves is that the best is the one that results most practical for you, acording to type of riding, type of pumping methods available and of course the type of bike/tire/rims you are using. Neither valve type is absolutely better than other, but one of them may result better for your particular circumstances.
For example when I was younger, the modern mountain bike was not yet popular in my country, so the most available tube had dunlop valves, also, the classical stick pump was available in the only bike store, in many hardware stores and even some supermarkets and department stores that sold sporting equipment. Back in that time, it was crazy to have a schrader valve, because you could only buy cheap and bad quality foot pumps, and the gas stations here where too careless to mantain their pumps in working order.
Nowadays, I have schraders in my DH bike, presta in my XC bikes and dunlops in my wife's XC bike. Besides that, I have many presta-to-schrader adaptors in my toolbox, patch kit, in my car, bacpack, etc. So I use a schrader pump head most of the time. This gives me huge flexibility, I can pump with whatever I have in hand! That is, In the car I have a small "compressor", an electrical pump that runs on 12v from the car's battery. At home I use a cheap but decent floor pump that has schrader head from a hardware store. Here the advantage is that it cost a fifth of a "proper biker's floor pump". And my Mini-stick pumps are set to schrader mode. Yes, I preffer to screw in the adaptor than to reverse the inners of the pump head.
I still have some dunlop tubes because here you can buy up to four or five dunlop tubes for the price of one schrader or presta. I use schraders on my DH bike because of the high volume. Schrader provides a wider air passage, so they are less restrictive and that allows for faster pumping with a hand of floor pump. Obvioulsy a DH tire does not require high pressure. And the prestas are used because higher quality tubes or certain specific sizes are only available in presta/shcrader.
After about 20 years of riding BMX (as a kid), Road, XC, DH, and even BSOs, i have never noticed a significative difference that forces me to choose one over another, and I find equal difficulty inflating them or repairing flats in any tube type.
The only possible advantage I see en prestas is that when you need to deflate them, you unscrew the valve closure and press it with yout finger, you don't need a thin object like with schraders. (such an object may already be in your emergency tool set, for example a 3mm hex from a multitool does the trick). The other advantage may be the locking nut that avoids the valve receeding into the rim when pressing the pump head against it.
Presta may be mandatory for narrow rims, like the ones in road bikes. Dunlop and Schrader both require the same diameter for the rim hole.
Of the three valve types, only dunlop actually requires air pressure to both open the valve while pumping and to seal it, and in practice it is the only one that closes itself while the pump is being filled with air. The typical stick pump for dunlop valves would not have a check valve on the output.
Both, Schrader and Presta specific pump heads press the inner pin or the closing nut respectively to open the valve. (I'm not saying prestas cannot be opened by air pressure from the pump, but most pump designs press on the closing nut). For that reason, modern pumps do have a check valve or an equivalent mechanism.
After that being said, whether it is easier to pump to a certain pressure depends more on the pump design, including the pump head. Some manufacturers simply have a better presta design than a shcrader design, but the opposite may be true for another make/model of pump.
That is, given that you have a good pump, it is equally as hard/easy to inflate a tube, and you will always find people that swears by othe or the other type, but the choice is yours. If you actually have the option, choose the one that is compatible with the best affordable pump that you have or can acquire.
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2+1 for mentioning Dunlop valves, which are the preferred valve of BSO in Japan, including the beloved Mama-bikes (Mamachari). Commented Jul 4, 2014 at 15:42
The best one is the one that fits your rim, as all rims are drilled a specific diameter for either Presta or Schrader.
Presta adds a very small amount of ease-of-use when it comes to letting out pressure with it's 'quick-release' valve, but the difference is trivial.
A Schrader valve can be pumped up with a car pump, often it is easer to find someone with a car pump than a bike pump when needed. (You can also use a bike pump when needed)
Also a cheap car foot pump is a lot better than most bike pumps.
Many riders and mechanics recommend discarding the lock nut on the Presta valve because it causes more problems than it cures. I got rid of the lock nuts on the 4 bikes I have that use the Presta valve and have experienced no problems after doing so.
Do You Need Those Presta Valve Nuts?
As to valves fitting rims...you can drill a 3/8 inch hole in a Presta valve rim and use Schrader vale tubes in it. You just have to make sure you find a tube that matches the recommendations for tire pressure of the tire. Also make sure you "clean up" the hole so that no rough edges or burrs are present.
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1Welcome to Bicycles SE. This post doesn't really do anything to answer the OP's question and would probably be better placed as a comment.– jimchristie ♦Commented Jul 17, 2013 at 18:50
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Drilling a hole in a narrow rim is a bad idea from several standpoints. You weaken the rim and you create a situation where the tire cannot properly settle onto the rim because the thick area around the valve prevents it. Commented Oct 9, 2016 at 21:53
A schrader valve require air pressure to open, A presta does not.
The biggest difference will seen when airing up a tire past 100+lbs, A shcrader will take more pumps to get from 100 to 110, because at that high of a pressure, more air is required to open the valve, whereas on a presta all the air goes into airing up the tire.
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9This is actually the opposite of the truth. A schrader valve requires the pin to be pushed mechanically (it's normally held closed by a small spring). Therefore the valve is open the entire time that the pump is attached. The reason that the schrader takes longer to pump from 100 to 110 is because you are losing air between strokes of the pump whereas the presta valve is only open when the pressure in the pump exceeds the pressure in the tire, so you are not losing air between strokes. Commented Mar 21, 2013 at 15:35