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We used Unifi to install Wifi in a house for a customer. Originally we covered everything with 5 UniFi AC PRO versions of the Unifi access points.

There are several VLANs, one for the office/staff, one for the reception one for another company using some rooms in the same building and one for the guests. This ran for two years relatively without issues.

However guests complained, that in the rooms there was always bad Wifi coverage. Therefore we ordered 20 UniFi AC Lite versions and installed one in each room. While that improved the coverage, we now had guests complaining, that they had connection drops and difficulties to connect to the internet at all. They would be able to associate with the AP in their room but then the connection to the internet didn't work.

To investigate the problem, I installed a monitoring system (Check MK) in their network and added all APs via SNMP. There I saw that alot of the VLAN interfaces of the access points suffered lots of errors. These happened seemingly completely random. I since then removed all VLANs from the Lite APs and only left the guest Wifi open. However I still see the errors coming in. Some have a few percent out-errors, some have up to 100%.

It's always the same interface (the one providing 5G Wifi).

What could cause these issues and what could I do to further investigate the problem?

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EDIT: All APs, Switches and Controller components are on the latest version. Each IP also has got assigned a static IP in their management-network.

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  • Make sure your central control is on an up to date version (6.26 for me on Windows). Then do a rolling firmware upgrade on all the units to get firmware on each one up to date. Also if you can do it, give each AP a static IP on your network.
    – anon
    Commented Aug 13, 2021 at 14:11
  • Sorry forgot to say that I've already done that. I updated my question Commented Aug 13, 2021 at 14:16
  • Look at the logical channel numbers of each unit (Insider office or like) and make sure the same channel is not on physically adjacent access points. Maybe you can try fewer access points (one point might serve two adjacent rooms).
    – anon
    Commented Aug 13, 2021 at 14:49
  • I've just added a bit to my answer addressing using signal measurement/graphing tools. That's probably your best bet at seeing what's actually going on RF-wise, and will be very helpful if you do decide to try tuning transmit power and minimum RSSI. (I'm also curious to know what you discover in the process - please do report back!)
    – Bob
    Commented Aug 13, 2021 at 19:07
  • @Bob thanks, I will report back but it might take some time because it's a rather delicate environment to test wifi while they are in business operation. Commented Aug 16, 2021 at 10:25

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Gather more information

Look at the UniFi control panel. You should find some useful statistics under the Wi-Fi Metrics dashboard:

  • Anomalies
  • Association failures - does one failure type appear particularly often?
  • Access point retry rate - do specific APs have significantly more retries?

Also take a look at connected devices. See if any have particularly poor signal strength. Even consider manually forcing a reconnect (you can do that in the control panel) and see which AP they choose to connect to - is it a better one? This will inform you which steps you should take next.

High-density deployments

Sometimes, having a super-dense deployment is a bad thing. At certain levels, APs start interfering with each other. Also, devices may connect to suboptimal APs and roam incorrectly.

You should read UniFi - High Density WLAN Scenario Guide. Pay particular attention to the Design section, where they address cell sizing.

Tuning cell sizes and signal strength

You should consider reducing signal strength as much as possible, to reduce interference and overlap. Ideally each AP does not overlap with more than its immediate neighbours.

You may wish to remove some APs to give them more breathing room.

You may wish to set up a minimum RSSI to kick clients that have a poor connection, in the hopes that they connect to a more appropriate AP. This helps force stubborn clients to roam to a closer AP rather than remaining connected to a poor, far-away, one.

Consider tuning 2.4 GHz transmit power as low as possible, and maybe even turning off the 2.4 GHz radio on adjacent APs, as there are very limited channels (3 non-overlapping, total!) available and 2.4 GHz signals propagate relatively far. Hopefully most client devices you're dealing with support 5 GHz.

Consider reducing bandwidth - a 20 MHz bandwidth is likely sufficient for public internet access at short distance from the AP. This wastes fewer channels than 40 or 80 MHz widths, giving you more chance at avoiding overlap/noise.

Depending on your layout, you may wish to assign channels manually so overlapping APs do not use adjacent (or, worse, same) channels. Auto-channel selection may already take care of this. Use measurement/graphing tools to find out.

All of this is described in the design and cell sizing section of the Ubiquiti document.

Use signal measurement tools

There are various tools available that can measure and graph signal levels visible to a client device. Ubiquiti themselves have WiFiman, available as both an iOS and Android app.

Use one to measure signal strength in each of your locations. Ideally you want one strong signal per non-overlapping channel, so you should tune your signal strengths to achieve this result. Situations where you have either no strong signals, or many strong signals (= noise) are suboptimal and may result in degraded experiences.

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