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Description | Discoverer or inventor of a place, a concept or an object. For work (Q386724), rather use creator (P170) or author (P50). |
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Represents | inventor (Q205375), innovator (Q3492227), discoverer (Q1344452), discovery (Q12772819), invention (Q14208553), discoveries and inventions (Q115154790) |
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Data type | Item |
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Template parameter | en:template:infobox planet discoverer |
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Domain | places, objects
(note: this should be moved to the property statements) |
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Allowed values | mainly persons, but also organizations, projects, travels...
(note: this should be moved to the property statements) |
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Example | Uranus (Q324) → William Herschel (Q14277) Bathurst Island (Q217369) → William Edward Parry (Q437310) Tesla coil (Q622424) → Nikola Tesla (Q9036) Hanny's Voorwerp (Q604603) → Hanny van Arkel (Q51079155) Galaxy Zoo (Q905745) Sloan Digital Sky Survey (Q840332) |
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Tracking: usage | Category:Pages using Wikidata property P61 (Q21037782) |
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See also | time of discovery or invention (P575), proved by (P1318), theorised by (P8403), named by (P3938) |
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Proposal discussion | Proposal discussion |
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Current uses | Total | 97,180 | | Main statement | 97,069 | 99.9% of uses | Qualifier | 111 | 0.1% of uses |
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Tipo valore "human (Q5), facility (Q13226383), robotic spacecraft (Q1378139), astronomical survey (Q550089), exploration (Q6502154), organization (Q43229), group of humans (Q16334295), software (Q7397), fictional robot (Q18327510), fictional character (Q95074), group of fictional characters (Q14514600), measurement tool (Q1047213), fictional entity (Q14897293), invention (Q14208553), archaeological find (Q10855061)": This property should use items as value that contain property “
instance of (P31)”. On these, the value for
instance of (P31) should be an item that uses
subclass of (P279) with value
human (Q5),
facility (Q13226383),
robotic spacecraft (Q1378139),
astronomical survey (Q550089),
exploration (Q6502154),
organization (Q43229),
group of humans (Q16334295),
software (Q7397),
fictional robot (Q18327510),
fictional character (Q95074),
group of fictional characters (Q14514600),
measurement tool (Q1047213),
fictional entity (Q14897293),
invention (Q14208553),
archaeological find (Q10855061) (or a subclass thereof). (
Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P61#Value type Q5, Q13226383, Q1378139, Q550089, Q6502154, Q43229, Q16334295, Q7397, Q18327510, Q95074, Q14514600, Q1047213, Q14897293, Q14208553, Q10855061, SPARQL
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This property is being used by:
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- cs:Šablona:Infobox - vesmírný objekt
- io:Shablono:Elemento
- ru:Шаблон:Экзопланета2
- el:Πρότυπο:Κουτί πληροφοριών πλανήτη, el:Πρότυπο:Πληροφορίες πλανήτη
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- udm:Шаблон:Планета
- lb:Schabloun:Infobox NGC
- tg:Шаблон:Ҷаъбаи сайёра, tg:Шаблон:Сайёра
- commons:Template:Wikidata Infobox, commons:Template:Wikidata Infobox/core, commons:Template:Infobox product
- ja:Template:Infobox プログラミング言語
- fr:Modèle:Infobox Fuite d'information, fr:Modèle:Infobox Langue
- gu:ઢાંચો:Wikidata Infobox, gu:ઢાંચો:Wikidata Infobox/core
- la:Formula:Capsa asteroidis Vicidata, la:Formula:Capsa satellitis Vicidata
- pt:Predefinição:Info/Asteroide, pt:Predefinição:Info/Asteroide/Testes, pt:Predefinição:Wikidata Infobox/core, pt:Predefinição:Info/Célula/Wikidata
- pcd:Modèle:Début Infoboéte V2
- vo:Samafomot:Pükataib
- ru:Шаблон:Планета
- az:Şablon:Ulduz məlumat qutusu, az:Şablon:Planet 2, az:Şablon:Planet
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- es:Plantilla:Ficha de accidente geográfico extraterrestre, es:Plantilla:Wikidata Infobox, es:Plantilla:Ficha de sistema de escritura
- cy:Nodyn:Wikidata Infobox
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- mw:Template:Wikidata Infobox/core
- mr:साचा:विकिडाटा माहितीचौकट/core, mr:साचा:विकिडेटा माहितीचौकट/core
- sa:फलकम्:Wikidata Infobox
- ur:سانچہ:خانہ معلومات ویکی ڈیٹا/کور, ur:سانچہ:Wikidata Infobox/core
- ha:Template:Automatic taxobox, ha:Template:Infobox astronomical object, ha:Samfuri:Automatic taxobox, ha:Samfuri:Infobox astronomical object
- hyw:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Ուտեստ, hyw:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Երաժշտական գործիք
- ru:Шаблон:Туманность
- q:fr:Modèle:Wikidata Infobox/core
- mt:Mudell:Automatic taxobox
- diq:Şablon:Galaksi, diq:Şablon:Galaksiye, diq:Şablon:Infobox elementi
- jv:Cithakan:Infobox spesies, jv:Cithakan:Infobox species
- de:Vorlage:Wikidata Infobox/core
- ta:வார்ப்புரு:Wikidata Infobox/core
- ban:Mal:Spesiesbox, ban:Mal:Infobox spesies, ban:Mal:Wikidata Infobox/core, ban:Mal:Automatic taxobox, ban:Mal:Infobox spésiés
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- gor:Templat:Infobox spesies
- ar:قالب:معلومات تدخل طبي (جديد), ar:قالب:معلومات مرض, ar:قالب:معلومات تدخل طبي, ar:قالب:صندوق معلومات تدخل طبي, ar:قالب:صندوق معلومات مرض
- bjn:Citakan:Infobox spesies, bjn:Citakan:Infobox spesies/bakpasir
- kab:Talɣa:Automatic taxobox, kab:Talɣa:Infobox astronomical object
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- arz:قالب:معلومات مرض, arz:قالب:معلومات وباء
- be-x-old:Шаблён:Плянэта, be-x-old:Шаблён:Страва
- wikt:hu:Sablon:Nyelv infobox
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- inh:Ло:Дуне
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- ku:Şablon:Wikidata Infobox/core
- lez:Шаблон:Планета
- mnw:ထာမ်ပလိက်:Wikidata Infobox/core
- nia:Templat:Infobox species, nia:Templat:Infobox spesies
- vec:Modeło:Infobox de Strumento muxicałe, vec:Modeło:Infobox de Insidente zeogràfego extraterestre, vec:Modeło:Tassobox, vec:Modeło:Infobox de Zeografia extraterestre
- zh-yue:Template:維基數據行星明細
- shi:Talɣa:Automatic taxobox, shi:Talɣa:Infobox astronomical object
- b:eu:Txantiloi:Taxotaula automatikoa
- d:Template:Wikidata Infobox/core
- dag:Tɛmplet:Taxon
- s:ban:Mal:Wikidata Infobox/core
- alt:Ӱлекер:Планета
- ceb:Plantilya:Wikidata Infobox
- ga:Teimpléad:WD Bosca Sonraí Ainmhí Bheo, ga:Teimpléad:WD Bosca Sonraí Comhdhúil Cheimiceach, ga:Teimpléad:WD Bosca Sonraí Córais Scríbhneoireachta, ga:Teimpléad:WD Bosca Sonraí Dúil Cheimiceach, ga:Teimpléad:WD Bosca Sonraí Mianra, ga:Teimpléad:WD Bosca Sonraí Pór Cait
- lv:Veidne:Wikidata Infobox/core
- ary:موضيل:معلومات جرم سماوي, ary:موضيل:معلومات جرم سماوي عميق, ary:موضيل:معلومات رياضة, ary:موضيل:معلومات عنصر كيماوي, ary:موضيل:معلومات قمر, ary:موضيل:معلومات كائن, ary:موضيل:معلومات كوكب, ary:موضيل:معلومات كوكب خارجي, ary:موضيل:معلومات مركب كيماوي, ary:موضيل:معلومات مستعر أعظم, ary:موضيل:معلومات نيزك
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- voy:shn:ထႅမ်းပလဵတ်ႉ:Wikidata Infobox
- s:hi:साँचा:Wikidata Infobox/core
- be-tarask:Шаблён:Плянэта, be-tarask:Шаблён:Страва
- eo:Ŝablono:Informkesto astronomia objekto
- yue:Template:維基數據行星明細
- zgh:ⴰⵍⴱⵓⴹ:Automatic taxobox
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- sk:Šablóna:Infobox Planétka
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--Gloumouth1 (talk) 09:49, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- When this property was proposed, it was done in the astronomical section. Nevertheless you are right: this property can be used also for other types of items. If there is consensus, I'm agree that it became "general". In this case, of course, we will need to change all the descriptions. --Paperoastro (talk) 13:27, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Certainly support for things like dinosaurs or archeological objects. And perhaps even for ideas and theories, like "Einstein discovered relativity theory", that may not be the best possible word, but that may me simpler than creating another property. --Zolo (talk) 13:45, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Move as general property. Snipre (talk) 14:32, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Be careful if we generalize it completely, it shoud be renamed discoverer or inventor, in order to avoid:
- terminolgy discrepencies (e.g. in English, Lascaux was discovered, in French, it was invented)
- philosophically undecidable questions (e.g. were natural numbers discovered or invented?)
- I think that few generic properties should be preferred to many specialized properties, but I'm not an expert in ontologies, and I'm afraid that there is currently no clear guideline about this.
- --Gloumouth1 (talk) 15:12, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Support generalization, but please be careful, as per Gloumouth1. --Ricordisamoa 15:21, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Support This property clearly applies well beyond astronomy. Emw (talk) 03:45, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Support if the label is renamed discovered or inventor --Gloumouth1 (talk) 10:17, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Since there is consensus, I moved this property to generic section and changed labels and descriptions in English and Italian languages following the suggestions of this discussion. --Paperoastro (talk) 16:19, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
--Gloumouth1 (talk) 10:17, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This does not make sense. A large part of all minor planet has a group of discoverer! -- Innocent bystander (talk) 18:56, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Vulcan (Q213636) was only hypothetical. But despite extensive effort, it was never discovered. Should I use a different property? --Shisma (talk) 08:29, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
P61 is now used in the new Infobox Méthode scientifique, an Infobox dedicated to scientific methods such as statistical test (Q210832), economic model (Q2180497). You can find the list of all pages using this Infobox here Catégorie Article utilisant l'infobox Méthode scientifique.--PAC2 (talk) 05:13, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Following this request for comments, there is two solutions in order to have a gender neutral French label :
- "découvreur, découvreuse, inventeur ou inventrice"
- "découvert ou inventé par"
I prefer the second one. And you? PAC2 (talk) 05:07, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Either "découvert(e) ou inventé(e) par, second choice the first proposition. --Pa2chant.bis (talk) 05:45, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I choose your solution PAC2 (talk) 16:50, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
For example, the Romni-Borschevo culture (Q4397572) existed: the "start time" was the 8th century, the "end time" was the 10th century. It was discovered or invented by Mykola Makarenko in the 20th century. And so we have: "The entities Romni-Borschevo culture and Mykola Makarenko should be contemporary". Is it possible to somehow remove the constraint for items with the instance “archaeological culture”? Or some other ways? Nicoljaus (talk) 15:54, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- I think it creates lot of confusions and must be divided, as 2 different elements: one is 'discover' and the other 'invented'. If you see items like Rosetta Stone, it has a 'creator' and an 'inception' time, and then a 'discoverer or inventor' and a 'time of discovery or invention'. But 'invention' term is closer to creation than to discovery. Then, many other elements are using the wrong classification.
- Also, if you need to translate this concept into a sentence, it will be confusing for people to read it, as these are 2 different ideas. Pruna.ar (talk) 21:22, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, I have no objection to your suggestions, but this is beyond my area of expertise.. The raised issue has been temporarily resolved this way: [1] Nicoljaus (talk) 19:25, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]