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I'm planning a trip from Zurich to Tel Aviv with flights booked via MyTrip.com (found through Skyscanner). The itinerary involves two flights:

  • Swiss LX1838: Departure at 13:10, arrival at 16:50.
  • Israir Airlines 6H562: Departure at 18:40, arrival at 20:40.

I have two specific questions regarding this journey:

  1. Considering that I won't have any checked luggage, is the layover time of 1 hour and 50 minutes between flights sufficient? (given that there's NO significant delay) I understand that since it's a self-transfer ticket, I'll need to go through security again.

  2. I've noticed that purchasing two separate tickets for each leg of the journey is approximately 25% cheaper than buying them as a single ticket through MyTrip.com. Are there any advantages or benefits to buying them as a single ticket through this provider?

Any insights or advice on these matters would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

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    The big issue with "self transfer" is that flights are delayed or cancelled a lot more than most other forms of transport. Typical on time numbers are ~ 90% and 2+ hour delays are not usunal. Don't self transfer unless you are willing to forfeit the cost of flight 2.
    – CMaster
    Commented Feb 13 at 10:27
  • Thanks @CMaster. My question basically is "what's the minimum time needed to do a "self-transfer" in ATH given that there's no delay?" - edited the post
    – Shaya Ulman
    Commented Feb 13 at 12:21
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    Not really, because you go to Israel, and such flights may have a longer check-in time requirement (and more security check). But I cannot find check-in time for Athens.
    – Giacomo Catenazzi
    Commented Feb 13 at 13:04
  • There is conflicting information about whether IsrAir allow online check-in or not (at the very least it's only available in Hebrew, and no idea whether that is available for this specific flight), and if not, what the check-in deadline is, or if there are any special security requirements.
    – jcaron
    Commented Feb 13 at 13:06
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    The official website of Athens airport says no e-check-in for IsrAir. The IsrAir website says web check is available only for flights FROM Tel Aviv.
    – jcaron
    Commented Feb 13 at 13:11

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I would very strongly advise against this connection.

Without even considering any possible delays:

  • Online check-in for Israir from Athens is apparently not possible.

  • It's unclear what the check-in deadline is. Flights to Israel and/or involving Israeli airlines often have specific security measures, which require additional checks before check-in and/or at the gate, and this often means extended delays. There's a page somewhere on the Israir site (in Hebrew only) which talks about "starting checks no later than 3 hours before departure", but it's quite unclear what they mean.

    For reference, El Al in Zurich say "check-in no later than 3 hours prior to departure" and "El Al security Check at the Gate no later than 2 hours prior to departure time". In Geneva it's 2 hours for check-in.

    I haven't found anything about that on the Israir website. They probably tell you only once you have actually booked your ticket.

So it's not clear whether it's actually even possible in this case, and if it is, how much margin you have. My guess is that's it's either not possible at all or extremely tight, with no margin for any delays.

As for your second question, even if you buy the two flights at once on MyTrip or other funky OTA, they are still two separate tickets, which means that if you miss a deadline (check-in or boarding) for the second flight, for any reason, you're most likely to find your ticket cancelled and to have to buy (and pay for!) a new one, at last minute prices (usually much more expensive). So if you still want to make that self-transfer, buy the tickets yourself directly with the airlines, you'll save yourself a lot of hassle.

The usual rule of thumb for self-transfers is to have at least 4 hours between the two flights, but in this case I would probably increase that quite a bit more. Also given the times, and the higher probability that the next flight is the next day, that makes it even more risky.

Don't do it unless you don't care having to buy a new ticket at last minute prices and/or having to stay overnight in Athens (on your own dime).

Finally, a search for MyTrip or IsrAir on this site would probably be informative.

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  • To the "don't do it unless" list one might add the possibility of insurance or a guarantee to cover the costs associated with the missed connection. I have no idea how likely it might be to find such insurance, but I understand that at least some sites that sell self-transfers provide some sort of guarantee. In this case, though, given the likelihood of additional security for the second flight, it seems almost certain that the connection is impossible, so one also has to factor in the almost certain time and aggravation of submitting claims, arranging a new flight and accommodation, etc.
    – phoog
    Commented Feb 14 at 9:15
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    Also if the ticket from Athens to Tel Aviv is a single round-trip ticket (rather than two separate one-way tickets as has become increasingly popular, especially with low-cost carriers), there's a good chance of losing the return portion by not using the outbound portion, at least under the traditional ticketing model.
    – phoog
    Commented Feb 14 at 9:19
  • @phoog the problem with those “guarantees” is that they often seem to be so limited or slow to respond that they become useless.
    – jcaron
    Commented Feb 14 at 10:15

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