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Summary: Can I fly into the USA on a one way ticket on ESTA, if I plan to return to Canada by foot? And does Amtrak/Greyhound share return leg with US Immigration?

I'm a visa waiver national with a valid ESTA, permanent resident in Canada. I'm flying on a one way ticket Canada -> USA (Vancouver -> LAX). 3-4 weeks later (after a flight LAX -> Seattle) I'll return to Canada by foot (at a land border checkpoint), or by Amtrak train/bus (on a one-way ticket: Seattle to Vancouver trains/buses from Aug 9th are already bookable now).

  • What's my chance of being admitted to USA if I don't have an exit train booked? (I'll carry with me bank/credit card statements to prove my bills in Canada, my purpose of stay can be confirmed, and I can show the LAX -> Seattle flight booking which gets me close to the border - which, of course, is domestic and not a guarantee that I'll leave).

  • Can I ask for a paper I-94W form (in addition to a digital I-94W) at US Immigration (which is done before departure in Vancouver), so that I could give that I-94W to the Canadian official if I leave US to Canada by foot (instead of by a train/bus)? (As I understand, the Canadian official would then pass the paper I-94W to the US officials, so they can record my timely exit from the USA.)

  • If I do get a paper I-94W form, and if I return by a train/bus, can I drop the paper I-94W to the Canadian official when leaving by train? Or do I give it to Amtrak staff instead? Or will Amtrak lodge an exit record with US immigration (and I can ignore the paper I-94W)?

  • If, (in the future) I travel on a return ticket (flight, train or bus: Amtrak/Greyhound - not a tiny shuttle company), can the US immigration official see the return leg of my trip on their system - is that commonly shared by commercial airlines, Amtrak and Greyhound? Or do I have to show the return booking? (Of course, I understand it's safer to carry the booking with me anyway.) (Update: Amtrak cancelled the cross-border buses (that were bookable with departure from August 9th). The nearest available departures Seattle->Vancouver are from September 1st.)

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What's my chance of being admitted to USA if I don't have an exit train booked?

You're unlikely to be allowed on the plane in the first place, as Timatic states that a return ticket is mandatory for ESTA passengers:

A return/onward ticket (or electronic ticket record) must be to a final destination country other than Canada, Mexico or contiguous (adjacent) countries or territories situated in or bordering the Caribbean Sea. If a passenger holds proof of residence in Canada, Mexico or a contiguous (adjacent) country or territory and is transiting the USA to that country or territory, then an onward/return ticket to that country or territory is accepted.

You could however buy a cheap fully refundable ticket and amend/refund it later on. Amtrak doesn't seem to be running trains/buses from Seattle to Vancouver at the moment (as far as I can tell from a quick search) but you could get a WestJet ticket from LAX to YVR with free cancellation if you book before the end of the month. As a last resort, all US airlines allow free cancellation within 24 hours of purchase, so you could buy a ticket at the airport, show it to the airline/CBP and then cancel it after picking up your luggage in the US.

Can I ask for a paper I-94W form (in addition to a digital I-94W) at US Immigration (which is done before departure in Vancouver), so that I could give that I-94W to the Canadian official if I leave US to Canada by foot (instead of by a train/bus)?

No, but this is not required as Canada shares immigration data with the US since 2016. A few minutes after passing the immigration checkpoint in Canada you can log onto the I-94 website where you will see your exit duly recorded. I've done this around 15 times and it works like a charm. Absolutely nothing to worry about at the Canadian land border, only the Mexican border is somewhat problematic for tourists as of today.

If, (in the future) I travel on a return ticket (flight, train or bus: Amtrak/Greyhound - not a tiny shuttle company), can the US immigration official see the return leg of my trip on their system - is that commonly shared by commercial airlines, Amtrak and Greyhound?

Maybe yes but I wouldn't count on it. Better to carry the PDF in your phone or print your ticket out in advance.

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  • But he is a resident of Canada, so unless the rules changed recently he should not need to provide a proof of return ticket. Commented Jul 23, 2021 at 17:04
  • @MichaelHampton does Timatic state an exemption like this?
    – JonathanReez
    Commented Jul 23, 2021 at 17:05
  • The last time I looked it did, and the post you linked to also states the exception. Commented Jul 23, 2021 at 17:06
  • Hm, maybe I'm wrong. The iatatravelcentre site isn't showing the exception anymore. Commented Jul 23, 2021 at 17:12
  • @MichaelHampton thanks, updated with latest Timatic info to be 100% sure
    – JonathanReez
    Commented Jul 23, 2021 at 17:14

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