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If we are using lots of toxic fuels like hydrazine for rockets, wouldn't this cause pollution due to the burnt leftovers ? I mean, just consider the amount of rockets and missiles launched in world so far and all the jet fuel that's being burnt by jet engines everyday. And then comes the huge debate about wood burning by people in poor countries when even the most developed countries pollute the air everyday as mentioned above.

I always have this doubt within me whenever I read about various scientific experiments like rockets, missiles, jet engines, etc. Why don't someone study and emphasize these effects just like ozone depletion or deforestation....

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    $\begingroup$ This question should probably be narrowed to remove the mention of weapon systems and aircraft unrelated to space. There's no point in asking about jet fighter pollution on Space Exploration SE. $\endgroup$
    – Nathan Tuggy
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    $\begingroup$ You're incorrect in assuming it isn't studied: ntrs.nasa.gov/… $\endgroup$
    – Hobbes
    Commented Jun 23, 2017 at 7:21
  • $\begingroup$ Can be related to this question: space.stackexchange.com/questions/2903/… $\endgroup$
    – Gp2mv3
    Commented Jun 23, 2017 at 7:49
  • $\begingroup$ It wouldn't surprise me if the most polluting exhaust element of most rocket is NO<sub>x</sub>, also widely emitted by vehicles. The aluminium compounds from some solid-fuel rockets wouldn't be good to breathe in but shouldn't hang around in the atmosphere for long. Some of the early experiments, particularly military, used fluoride oxidisers. These produce HF, which is nasty, and have been discussed before. Which pollutants are you most concerned about? $\endgroup$
    – Chris H
    Commented Jun 23, 2017 at 9:26

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Hydrazine burns very nicely to water and ammonia. It is the unburnt stuff that is dangerous.

LH/LOX engines burn products are water.

RP1/LOX engines burn much the same as car engines, just hotter so some weird nitrogen compounds form.

The SRB's are really quite polluting. But consider that in 30 years 135 pairs were launched. (Not sure if that should be 136 and include Challenger or not, or 137 and include Ares-1X). Over something as large as a planet that is a negligble amount.

The number of rocket and missile launches, again, over the scale of a planet is surprisingly low.

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  • $\begingroup$ Hydrazine monoprops go to ammonia; the usual hypergolic biprop suspects go to a variety of stuff, mostly N2 and water. yarchive.net/space/rocket/fuels/hydrazine.html $\endgroup$
    – Russell Borogove
    Commented Jun 23, 2017 at 2:39
  • $\begingroup$ (Plus a little ammonia if run fuel-rich, which I guess is generally done.) $\endgroup$
    – Russell Borogove
    Commented Jun 23, 2017 at 2:48
  • $\begingroup$ I think you can include Challenger, because as they were ignited they probably burn entirely. $\endgroup$
    – le_daim
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    $\begingroup$ @uhoh I agree, and I'm totally convinced that spacial activities are highly profitable for humanity. But speaking about the pollution of the propellants, it's also interesting to thing about their production. $\endgroup$
    – Gp2mv3
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    $\begingroup$ If RP1 is burned with LOX, no nitrogen is present in the combustion chamber, so no NOx is produced there. If the hot gases after the nozzle mix with air, some nitrogen of the air might react with the oxygen of the air to build NOx. But this is possible for LH2 and LOX too. But are the gases after the nozzle and after mixing with some air still hot enough to produce NOx? $\endgroup$
    – Uwe
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About 150 thousand kg of kerosene (RP-1) is used in a single Falcon 9 launch.

About 500 billion kg of gasoline is used in the US per year.

Thus, launching 80 rockets a day would increase pollution in the US by about 1%.

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    $\begingroup$ How 16 ships create as much pollution as all the cars in the world. (not space ships) Not much sulphur in RP-1! $\endgroup$
    – uhoh
    Commented Jun 23, 2017 at 8:09
  • $\begingroup$ @uhoh: That's assuming the only pollution source is sulphur. In fact, sulphur isn't even the most lethal, that's soot. $\endgroup$
    – MSalters
    Commented Jun 23, 2017 at 10:33
  • $\begingroup$ @MSalters Sulphur hurts the atmosphere & environment even if you don't breathe it yourslef. Pollution is a multi-faceted issue for sure. $\endgroup$
    – uhoh
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    $\begingroup$ @uhoh: Actually, it doesn't hurt "the atmosphere". It's a global problem in the higher atmosphere, but ship exhausts don't rise that high. In the lower atmosphere, it's a problem above land, but not above the sea. And in many seas, marine life (plankton) benefits from a bit of sulfate fertilization. Locally high concentrations can cause algae blooms, but that's associated with waste water streams. Exhaust gases are too rarefied to cause such blooms. $\endgroup$
    – MSalters
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    $\begingroup$ @MSalters that's a really helpful breakdown. Consider posting as an answer? $\endgroup$
    – uhoh
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For launching rockets and now with the newest high bypass turbofan engines, the engines are tuned and controlled to the point that the chemical reaction is stoichiometric. For the most part, the chemical reactions in the engines operating in the atmospheric layers produce byproducts of either just water (for a liquid hydrogen/liquid oxygen engine) or water and carbon dioxide (Jet Fuel/Liquid Oxygen). The efficiency of these engines is so vitally important that companies and governments cannot afford to have reactions less than perfect. Neither of those sets of byproducts shall alter the homeostasis of our atmosphere. What does make a difference is the example of a wood fire. That is a burn that is incredibly dirty with incomplete reactions and many large particulate molecules coming from the combustion reaction. The incentive to change habits for someone using a wood stove just do not exist.

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    $\begingroup$ You may be right for turbofans, but rocket engines are usually run just a bit off the stoichiometric ratio. $\endgroup$
    – Hobbes
    Commented Jun 26, 2017 at 7:28
  • $\begingroup$ Hobbes, is it that they run slightly off of stoichiometric or is it that they use a little extra for cryogenic cooling of the nozzle. There really is no room for extra weight to be lifted, and everything must serve a purpose. From what I have seen of the newer designs, they are using either liquid helium, liquid nitrogen or both for cryogenic cooling as well as fire suppression if needed. No matter what though, all of those elements make up our atmosphere, and they do not disrupt atmospheric homeostasis. $\endgroup$
    – Lilibete
    Commented Jun 26, 2017 at 7:36
  • $\begingroup$ @aviatrix Any examples of rocket engines that are cryogenic cooled with liquid nitrogen, liquid helium or both? $\endgroup$
    – Uwe
    Commented Jun 26, 2017 at 7:55
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    $\begingroup$ Even unburned exhaust products contribute to thrust. Discussion of mixture ratio in rockets: yarchive.net/space/rocket/fuels/fuel_ratio.html and space.stackexchange.com/questions/5642/… $\endgroup$
    – Hobbes
    Commented Jun 26, 2017 at 8:43
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    $\begingroup$ I was incorrect, the mixture ratio is not "just a bit" off the stoichiometric ratio, but a large amount, see this answer: space.stackexchange.com/questions/22148/… $\endgroup$
    – Hobbes
    Commented Jul 1, 2017 at 16:59

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