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According to PhysicsWorld and numerous other resources, Einstein said the following:

Then I would feel sorry for the good Lord. The theory is correct anyway. (1919, reply to his assistant, Ilse Rosenthal-Schneider, who asked what he would have done had Eddington’s eclipse measurements not supported general relativity)

But did he actually say this (presumably in German)? I can't find the original reference to this anywhere.

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This is a followup to benrg’s excellent answer, too long for comments. The quotation goes back to reminiscences of Einstein by the philosopher of physics Ilse Rosenthal-Schneider, from her doctoral studies in Berlin around 1918–20. This is related in (at least) four works by Rosenthal-Schneider:

  1. a short typescript note in German dated 1957, online here as document 20-295 in the Einstein Archive, Erinnerungen an Gespraeche mit Einstein;

  2. a chapter in English Reminiscences of Einstein, ADS bibcode 1980ssp..conf..521R, in the 1980 volume Some strangeness in the proportion: A centennial symposium to celebrate the achievements of Albert Einstein (ed. Harry Woolf), available at Library Genesis;

  3. a 1980 book in English, Reality and scientific truth: Discussions with Einstein, Von Laue, and Planck, from Wayne State Univ. Press, which I haven’t yet been able to access beyond a few snippets from Google Books;

  4. a 1988 book in German, Begegnungen mit Einstein, von Laue und Planck: Realität und wissenschaftliche Wahrheit, from Springer, Facetten der Physik vol.12, also on Library Genesis.

The later works repeat the story near-verbatim from the 1957 manuscript, so I think we can take that as primary. Below is my transcription of the section in question, along with the preceding anecdote for context, and with my (non-expert) translation interspersed. Since it’s rather long, I’ll give my own overall judgement in advance: Most likely Einstein did say something close to this quote — but he was probably at least partly joking. The typescript is from almost forty years after the events, so the details may well have been embroidered in memory (as other commenters suggest); but Rosenthal–Schneider was a serious and respected philosopher in a very scholarly tradition, so I would guess she was writing fairly carefully here (and might well have been working from earlier personal notes). However, the surrounding anecdotes clearly show that not everything Einstein said in these recollections was meant to be taken completely seriously — they often show Einstein joking, sometimes quite obviously and sometimes more drily.

Transcript from the 1957 typescript, page 2, sections III–IV:

III. Da wir zur Zeit seiner regelmässigen Vorlesungen dieselbe elektrische Bahn zur und von der Universität benutzten, hatte ich viel Gelegenheit, mit Einstein zu sprechen. Das waren durchaus nicht immer nur ernste, sachliche Diskussionen. Als ich eimal [sic] an der Haltestelle sagte: “Was würde nun sein, wenn der Bericht stimmte, dass der amerikanische Physiker (Miller?) wirklich den “absolut ruhenden Äther” nachgewiesen hätte?” Darauf er: “Dann wäre eben die ganze Relativitätstheorie Unsinn.”

During the period of his regular lectures [in Berlin around 1918–20], since we took the same electric train to and from the University, I had much opportunity to speak with Einstein. These were by no means always just serious discussions of factual matters. Once I said at the station: “And what would happen if the story were true, that the American physicist (Miller?) had really detected the ‘absolutely stationary aether’?” To which he replied: “Then the whole theory of relativity would be nonsense.”

IV. Als ich einmal bei Einstein war, um mit ihm zusammen eine Abhandlung zu lesen, die viele Einwände gegen seine Theorie enthielt, fand ich, dass er den Rand des Buches mit herrlichen Bemerkungen verziert hatte. An einer Stelle hatte der Verfasser geschrieben: ‘Es ist unverständlich, warum Einstein…’ (oder ähnlich). Am Rande stand von Einsteins Hand: “Bekenntnis einer schönen Seele”.

IV. Once, when I was visiting Einstein to read together a dissertation which contained various objections to his theory, I found that he had filled the margin of the book with marvellous remarks. In one place, the author had written: “It is incomprehensible why Einstein…” (or something like that). In the margin stood in Einstein’s hand: “Confession of a beautiful soul.”

An einer andern Stelle hatte er an den Rand geschrieben: ‘Adventavit asinus, pulcher et fortissimus’. Er amüsierte sich, dass ich sagte, es wäre nicht fair dass er das Buch vorher gelesen hätte; wir wollten es doch zusammen lesen. Er merkte aber natürlich, dass die reizenden Randbemerkungen mir riesige Freude machten. Plötzlich unterbrach er die Besprechung des Buches, ergriff ein auf dem Fensterbrett liegendes Telegramm und reichte es mir mit den Worten: “Hier, das wird Sie vielleicht interessieren”. Es war Eddingtons Kabel mit den Messergebnissen der Sonnenfinsternis-Expedition. Als ich meiner Freude über die gute Uebereinstimmung mit seinen Berechnungen Ausdruck gab, sagte er nur gänzlich unbewegt: “Ich wusste ja, dass die Theorie stimmt.” Und, als ich sagte, wenn es nun aber keine Bestätigung seiner Vorhersage gewesen wäre, entgegnete er: “Da könnt’ mir halt der liebe Gott leidtun, die Theorie stimmt doch."

In another place he had written in the margin: ‘Adventavit asinus, pulcher et fortissimus’ [‘Up came the donkey, beautiful and srong.’]. He was amused when I said it wasn’t fair that he had already read the book — we had been going to read it together. But he noticed, of course, that the charming marginal remarks gave me great pleasure. Suddenly he broke off the discussion of the book, seized a telegram lying on the windowsill, and passed it to me with the words “Here, perhaps this will interest you.” It was Eddington’s cable with the measurements of the solar eclipse expedition. When I expressed my pleasure at the good agreement with his calculations, he said just, completely unmoved, “Well, I knew the theory was correct.” And, when I said, what if there had not been any confirmation of his predictions, he countered “Then I’d simply feel sorry for dear God; the theory is true anyhow.”

The 1957 typescript moves on to other anecdotes, with no further comment on this one. In the 1988 book (and presumably the 1980), she adds a useful comment:

Hier verwendete er - wie so oft - das Wort "Gott" statt "Natur".

Here he used — as so often — the word “God” instead of “nature”.

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  • A comment on the style of your translation: You've translated Er merkte aber natürlich, dass die reizenden Randbemerkungen mir riesige Freude machten as But he noticed, of course, that that charming marginal remarks gave me great pleasure. Aside from the general observation that in English the that that construction is either néver used, verboten ;-), or merely únusual, the dass die becomes that that. Since the 2nd 'that' refers to "remarks" which is plural, and the German "die" also refers to a plural substantive noun, I wonder if "that thóse" wouldn't have been better? Commented May 20 at 9:28
  • And: In Als ich meiner Freude über die gute Uebereinstimmung mit seinen Berechnungen Ausdruck gab you used both "ü" and "Ue"? Why? The latter is just a way to avoid code confusion caused by diacritics. Isn't "ü" preferable in Hochdeutsch? Commented May 20 at 9:45
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    @GwenKillerby: That “that that” was simply a typo, not a style choice — thanks for catching it! In general I don’t think that “that that” is verboten or particularly unusual in English — I’ve certainly never heard that that’s the case — but here of course I agree that that “that that” was an error. More seriously: given the context here, I’ve aimed to err on the side of faithfulness in the translation.
    – PLL
    Commented May 20 at 9:46
  • @GwenKillerby: In that too (ü vs. Ue), I’ve erred on the side of faithfulness, given the context here of trying to get the historical record as clear as possible — so I’ve followed what Rosenthal-Schneider used in the typescript, though I presume it was probably due to the limitations of the typewriter used, not a particular personal preference.
    – PLL
    Commented May 20 at 9:50
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    "due to the limitations of the typewriter used" Aaaaaah... ach so! This explains a lot! <3 Stupid I hadn't thought of that before!! Grrrrr $#@$@$#@ typewriters ... ;) Commented May 20 at 9:52
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Wikiquote has two references:

  • Jagdish Mehra, "The Physicist's Conception of Nature" (1979), p. 131 [footnote with citation on p. 168]
  • Ilse Rosenthal-Schneider, "Reality and Scientific Truth: Discussions with Einstein, von Laue, and Planck" (1980), p. 74

Mehra cites

  • Ilse Rosenthal-Schneider, "Erinnerung an Gespräche mit Einstein" ["Memories of conversations with Einstein"], manuscript dated 23 July 1957 (Einstein Archive, Princeton, N.J.)

It's document 20-295 and scans are online here (thanks to PLL in comments). The quote is on the second page at the end of paragraph IV.

I'll just quote the whole Google Books snippet of Rosenthal-Schneider 1980 (boldface mine):

[...]lated!" Quite unperturbed, he remarked, "I knew that the theory is correct. Did you doubt it?" I answered, "No, of course not. But what would you have said if there had been no confirmation like this?" He replied, "Da könnt' mir halt der liebe Gott leid tun. Die Theorie stimmt doch." ("I would have had to pity our dear God. The[...]

The version in the 1957 document is the same up to inconsequential punctuation changes.

It appears that there were no witnesses to this remark except Rosenthal-Schneider, and the earliest reference above is from 38 years after the conversation would have taken place, and after Einstein's death, so you can take it for what it's worth.

(For anyone who doubts whether Einstein would have said such a thing, I'll point out that he frequently used God as a metaphor for nature ("God does not play dice", "God is subtle but not malicious", "I want to know God's thoughts"), and he saw himself as discovering general relativity, not creating it. The quote means that he would have been less impressed by nature's beauty if it didn't avail itself of this beautiful form of gravitation.)

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    The 1957 manuscript recollection of Rosenthal-Schneider is, I think, this document 20-295 available online from the Einstein Archives (now in Hebrew University of Jerusalem). The given quote appears in the middle of page 2. Someone with better German can probably do better than me at summarising any relevant context from the rest of the document. There’s also a published German version of her reminiscences from Springer, link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-663-01884-1, which is in Library Genesis.
    – PLL
    Commented May 19 at 11:31
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    @PLL Google Translate seems to say that Einstein said this after the theory was proven correct by solar eclipse observations. So even if it was said (and we know memory is highly fallible after 40 years), it was likely said in jest. Commented May 19 at 12:22
  • @PLL Thanks, I added the link to the archive.
    – benrg
    Commented May 19 at 20:51
  • @JonathanReez I added a paragraph about the meaning of the quote. I think it's something he plausibly would say.
    – benrg
    Commented May 19 at 20:51
  • @benrg: I’ve added my own answer with a full transcript of the relevant anecdote, and a little more discussion
    – PLL
    Commented May 19 at 20:55

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