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Since Dragonlance was a subset of regular AD&D (same spells, monsters, and leveling), what was Raistlin's final level. Or if he didn't have one (such as eventually the writers just made him all powerful), what was his final level on paper before he reached god-like power?

In my limited searching several websites seem to just arbitrarily define his level as 20. However, my understanding is the authors played the game with the characters to work through the module books and develop the characters. So in theory, somewhere there was a character sheet titled "Raistlin Majere" with all of his actual stats.

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Dragonlance Adventures listed him as a level 21 black robed wizard. DLA is a 1st Edition source book and I believe in conversion to 3e it would translate to ~level 20.

There was a source book that talked about the creating of the original adventure modules, and eventually the Dragonlance campaign and Novels. I believe I read that Raistlin was actually Margeret Wies's character. I believe it was in History of Dragonlance but It may have been Leaves of the Inn of the Last Home. But if you choose to buy it and I am wrong sorry.

EDIT: Turns out is was Soulforge and the player was Terry Phillips not Margret Wies.

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    No, in the foreword to SoulForge (The book about Raistlin growing up), the D&D character was played by one the players, Terry Phillips. Margaret Weis did create the character, as they (Weis/Hickman) created them specifically for an AD&D epic adventure they had designed. Much of the sarcasm and voice came from Terry's mind.
    – JohnP
    Commented Jun 2, 2014 at 22:36
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Level 20 is (was?) the final level before becoming a Demigod, or epic. That's why you can, "arbitrarily define his level as 20."

These days, at level 21 you may take the Epic Destiny Feat (RPG.SE - How does one become a god?).

New Feat: Epic Destiny

You have a destiny beyond that of other adventurers.

Prerequisite: 21st level, any other requirements listed in the epic destiny's description.

Benefit: Choose an epic destiny. You gain that epic destiny's benefits at 21st, 24th, 27th, and 30th level. When you have this feat, you do not gain additional feats at 24th, 27th, or 30th level. –wizards.com

According to user Ignominia at giantitp.com, Raistlindantilus was level 27 in the D&D module Legends of the Twins, by Tracy Hickman. I do not own that book so I can't verify this:

Raistlin @lvl 1 - Towers of High Sorcery pg 4
Raistlin @ lvl 6 - War of the Lance pg 245
Raistlin @lvl 27 - Legend of the Twins pg 84


The real question, for which I have no answer:

I doubt Terry Phillips played this character even up to level 20.

"I've played d&d on and off for 20 years, and I've only gone from 1-20 once." –(user) alittletooquiet; Has anyone ever made it from level 1 to 20?reddit


Also, he didn't "die" he was defeated. I do believe that whether or not he 'ascended' is left up to the reader. All deities are immortal*:

Immortality

All deities (even those of rank 0) are naturally immortal and cannot die from natural causes. Deities do not age, and they do not need to eat, sleep, or breathe. The only way for a deity to die is through special circumstances, usually by being slain in magical or physical combat. Deities of rank 1 or higher are not subject to death from massive damage. –d20srd.org

I cannot recall if Takhisis heals him herself every day or not. Regardless, she may not have had to:

Divine Recovery (24th level): The first time you are reduced to 0 hit points or fewer each day, you regain hit points equal to half your maximum hit points. –dungeonanddragons.wikia.com

*all of this begs the question of if a Demigod is a deity, which WAS a yes.

In every edition of D&D except 4th, demigods have been the lowest rank of power of the divine god scale. They are true gods, just the weakest of the true gods. –forgottenrealms.wikia.com


Stats:

STR: 10
INT: 17
DEX: 16
WIS: 14
CON: 10
CHAR: 10 [15]

angelfire.com (not sourced)


Here are his stats from the hardcover book:

Str 10; Dex 16; Con 10; Int 17; Wis 14; Cha 15

They're the same in the original module where he was introduced.

sorcerers.net (unconfirmed; I do not own that book either)

The only discrepancy between these two is his Charisma stat: 10 or 15. It is unclear to me if he was Raistlindantilus, "in the original module where he was introduced."

It is widely believed that his stats changed considerably after taking The Test (the only one that's apparent is his shattered Constitution), and then again after he used the Bloodstone on Fistandantilus.

Furthermore, if he truly was a Demigod, at level 21 he would have been granted the Divine Spark class feature, giving him the choice of increasing two ability scores by 2 each.

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  • This is good theory for 5e but Dragonlance world was a 1st edition setting so these dont really apply.
    – Chad
    Commented Apr 27, 2017 at 21:29
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    If Raistlin has constitution 10, just how feeble is a character with constitution 3?
    – chepner
    Commented Apr 27, 2017 at 23:15
  • @chepner - High Strength and low Con? What does that look like? "Could be a strong dude who looks entirely normal, but has an inherited condition like asthma or mild hemophilia (severe hemophilia would be really bad for an adventurer) that inhibits his ability to stay in a fight. Or maybe he has a weak immune system, or his pain tolerance is really low"...
    – Mazura
    Commented May 17, 2017 at 22:53
  • @Mazura Oh, I missed your comment about the stat change assumed to occur after his test. From what I remember about the books (having read them once 25 years ago), I suppose 10 going into the Tower would sound about right. Maybe after the test he was a 7 (or less?).
    – chepner
    Commented May 18, 2017 at 0:33
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AD&D 1E's DragonLance Adventures, page 108 lists him as a 20th level. He is the highest level character detailed in DLA, as well; no other exceeds 18th. He's the exception to the 18th level limit, and may at that point be a demigod in a mortal form, rather than an actual mortal.

Page 13 notes that those who exceed 18th level "do so by either by special permission of the gods or by unnatural means." Raistlin is called out for this, as are the Dragon Highlords of the Queen of Darkness.

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He was 30th level in the Time of the Twins 3.5 edition sourcebook that Soverign Stone put out with the official Dragonlance gaming license.

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    Can you provide a screenshot (or at least his actual stats)
    – Valorum
    Commented Jun 7, 2019 at 18:55
  • I'm struggling to identify which gamebook you mean. Do you mean Legends of the Twins - Sovereign Press: d20 3.5 (2006 Hardcover); index.rpg.net/display-entry.phtml?mainid=3373?
    – Valorum
    Commented Jun 7, 2019 at 19:10

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