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The command spell has the stipulation that the spell has no effect if your command is directly harmful to the target it.

Say the Initiative order goes:

  1. pc1

  2. pc2

  3. mob1

Pc1 casts command on a mob with command "heel" i.e come stand next to me. The current terrain is a plain patch of grass, nothing initially harmful. The mob fails the WIS save and so on its next turn must go over and stand next to pc1, however pc2 (who doesn't care about 'friendly fire' casts spike growth on the area near PC1 so any creature entering it takes 2D4 damage which is directly harmful.

At the time of casting the issued command was not directly harmful and so would have taken effect, but now that the command is directly harmful would that cause the spell to fail and mob1 would no longer be magically compelled to 'heel'.

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The spell has no effect if following the command is directly harmful

Command says:

You speak a one-word command to a creature you can see within range. The target must succeed on a Wisdom saving throw or follow the command on its next turn. The spell has no effect if the target is undead, if it doesn't understand your language, or if your command is directly harmful to it.

There is no rule that the effects of a spell only are checked at the time of casting, and in general, consensus is that spells continue to check if they apply, (and are only suppressed while their target is invalid).

So, if at the time of the creatures action, the action is directly harmful to the creature, the spell has no effect and the creature will not take the action.

In your example, the mob would not move through the spike growth.


P.S. Note that spike growth says

The transformation of the ground is camouflaged to look natural. Any creature that can't see the area at the time the spell is cast must make a Wisdom (Perception) check against your spell save DC to recognize the terrain as hazardous before entering it.

Command does only say the spell must be directly harmful to the creature, not that the creature has to be aware of it for the spell to have no effect, so as written, it would fail even if the creature would not know that the command is harmful.

A DM could favor an interpretation where the spell has no effect because the creature is aware the action would hurt it. If they ruled on the spell like that, then the spell only would have no effect if the creature succeeded on their perception check that the area is covered in sharp spikes.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Is walking into an effect caused by another spell 'directly' harmful? Isn't it indirect harm if the harm is by another effect? Direct harm means you can't get them to stab themselves, ie directly caused by the command spell itself? \$\endgroup\$
    – SeriousBri
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    \$\begingroup\$ @SeriousBri "Dirctly" is not furhter defined, but I would think anything that direclty results in damage if done would count, not just things you actively do to yourself. E.g. commanding someone to walk into a pool of lava is not something they "do to themselves" but certainly is directly harmful to them and I would expect my DM to say no, \$\endgroup\$ Commented 2 days ago
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    \$\begingroup\$ @SeriousBri if you were to take it that way you could Command someone to jump off a bridge, since it's not the jumping that hurts you, just the rapid deceleration upon contact with the ground. \$\endgroup\$
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    \$\begingroup\$ I am convinced. +1 \$\endgroup\$
    – SeriousBri
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