More specifically, if you fall off of a gargantuan dragon would it get an attack on you while you are falling?
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Does falling through an enemy's threatened area trigger an attack of opportunity?
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More specifically, if you fall off of a gargantuan dragon would it get an attack on you while you are falling?
Yes
From Combat->Attacks of Opportunity
Moving out of a threatened square usually provokes an attack of opportunity from the threatening opponent.
From Combat->Actions In Combat (table footnote 1)
Regardless of the action, if you move out of a threatened square, you usually provoke an attack of opportunity. This column indicates whether the action itself, not moving, provokes an attack of opportunity.
It is not a move action that provokes, it is movement itself.
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pp 137 PHB 3.5E, bolding mine
Provoking an Attack of Opportunity: Two kinds of actions can provoke attacks of opportunity: moving out of a threatened square and performing an action within a threatened square. Moving: Moving out of a threatened square usually provokes an attack of opportunity from the threatening opponent. There are two common methods of avoiding such an attack—the 5-foot-step (see page 144) and the withdraw action (see page 143). Performing a Distracting Act: Some actions, when performed in a threatened square, provoke attacks of opportunity as you divert your attention from the battle. Casting a spell and attacking with a ranged weapon, for example, are distracting actions. Table 8–2: Actions in Combat notes many of the actions that provoke attacks of opportunity.
Remember that even actions that normally provoke attacks of opportunity may have exceptions to this rule. For instance, a character with the Improved Unarmed Strike feat doesn’t incur an attack of opportunity for making an unarmed attack.
According to the 3.5e PHB if you move out of the threatened range of the dragon/ other gargantuan creature, as you move out of that area you incur an opportunity attack. However, if the character were to manage to make the withdraw action then the dragon wouldn't get the opportunity attack.
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\$\begingroup\$ Please note, D&D checks for AoO triggering every time you move out of a square not treatened space as a whole. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Nov 30, 2017 at 8:13
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\$\begingroup\$ @annoyingimp technically D&D 5e does require you to choose to move whereas 3.5e is moving in general. Note pp 195 of the PHB 5e. \$\endgroup\$– rpgstarCommented Nov 30, 2017 at 10:25
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1\$\begingroup\$ I don't think you are reffering to what I'm concerned about. Withdraw action lets you leave one single square. If you fall off of a gargantuan creature you will move more than one square down (all of them in a threatened area) and will provoke even if you took a withdraw action to move from his head or shoulder to start that fall. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Nov 30, 2017 at 19:03
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\$\begingroup\$ @annoyingimp I see what you mean now, that would be a problem, in which case there is no workaround, at least one person is going to get AoO. though if multiple people went at once then the dragon would use its reaction on the first and not have it to use on the other ones. Pardon me if I've gotten that all wrong I usually play 5e not 3.5e and I know that's how it would work in 5e. \$\endgroup\$– rpgstarCommented Dec 5, 2017 at 20:53
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Almost always that is a no.
While moving away as an action, except for adjustment step/withdraw, will trigger an opportunity attack, being moved away does not. Falling is not a movement action, it is movement by "another force". In a sense, if falling triggered AoO, things like wind gust, levitate, psi push, shield slams, and so many other sources of "pushing" would trigger a AoO for the attacker. That does not happen.
It might, but only in unusual situations. Some feats (I'm struggling to remember which, but there is at least one) will give you an AoO trigger on dexterity loss, but you need to have the feat. Tripping into the ground would leave you prone, and as long as you are still within attack reach, it would trigger AoO.
I will try to research which feat it is at home afterwards. It might be something from Songs and Silence.
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1\$\begingroup\$ [Citation Needed] on “being moved away does not [trigger an attack of opportunity].” I have never seen that said. \$\endgroup\$– KRyanCommented Nov 30, 2017 at 16:06
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2\$\begingroup\$ Interesting line of reason, but isn't representative of other rules. For example, if you are bull rushed by some other force, you still provoke from any other opponent that threatens. \$\endgroup\$– WyrmwoodCommented Nov 30, 2017 at 16:20
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\$\begingroup\$ @Wyrmwood, you have a point. Bull rush do specifically denotes that defender triggers AoO if moved. \$\endgroup\$– ElindorCommented Nov 30, 2017 at 16:38
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\$\begingroup\$ @KRyan, "Two kinds of actions can provoke attacks of opportunity: moving out of a threatened square and performing an action within a threatened square." Being pushed or falling is not an action. The rules are very clear, though, that moving out of threat is taken as an action. While there is no text saying bing pushed wont trigger AoO, if you look at "action types" in the books, you'll also see that "A 5 ft. step is considered no action and does not provoke an attack of opportunity". If the movement is no action, it should not trigger AoO. So, is falling an action? \$\endgroup\$– ElindorCommented Nov 30, 2017 at 16:38
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1\$\begingroup\$ @Elindor I agree that the rules are unclear, but I do not agree with your conclusions. A 5-ft. step is not an action, and does not provoke, but these are separate statements—a 5-ft. step doesn’t provoke because the rules say it doesn’t, not inherently as part of being a non-action. \$\endgroup\$– KRyanCommented Nov 30, 2017 at 16:42