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Potential energy of a particle inside a magnetic vector potential

Why is the potential energy of a particle inside a magnetic vector potential equal to $-\frac{e}{c}\cdot\vec{A}(\vec{x}(t))\cdot\dot{\vec{x}}(t)$? It appears for example inside the lagrangian of the ...
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On generalised potential in Electrodynamics

I'm studying Lagrangian Mechanics from Goldstein's Classical Mechanics. My question concerns Section 1.5 which talks about velocity-dependent potentials. I am actually unsure about how Equation 1-64' ...
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How to understand "the potential energy in an EM field is determined by $\phi$ alone"?

Goldstein page 342, Consider a single particle (non-relativisitic) of mass $m$ and charge $q$ moving in an electromagnetic field. The Lagrangian is $$ L = T-V = \frac{1}{2}mv^2-q\phi +q\vec{A}\cdot \...
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Intuition on $E^2-B^2$ as a Lagrangian?

I recall reading that instead of $E$ and $B$ vectors, gradients of $E^2-B^2$ are fundamental. I understand that it is the Lorentz invariant Lagrangian for the EM field. The signs of the energy imply ...
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How to get the Magnetic Force from the Electromagnetic Tensor using Hodge Decomposition?

The following notation is used below: d: exterior derivative $\delta$: codifferential (adjoint of d) $\times$: skew-symmetric operator of a $\mathbb{R}^3$-vector $\nabla\times$: Curl operator in ...
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Lagrangian in presence of an Electromagnetic Field

Given the following definition of the Magnetic Vector Potential $\vec{A}$: $$\vec{A} \ \mid \ \vec{B}=\vec{\nabla}\times\vec{A}$$ We can derive (but I don't know how) that the Lagrangian in presence ...
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Expressing $E$ field and $B$ field using potentials

Why dont we have a term that corresponds to the change in E field in eq1.61b like we have in eq 1.61a?
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Follow-up on "Derivation of Lagrangian of electromagnetic field from Lorentz force"

I have a follow-up on this post. The way I understand it, if one generally has a velocity-dependent potential $U(q, \dot q, t)$, then we can derive/define a generalized force $$Q_k = \frac{d}{dt}\frac{...
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Deeper Meaning to the Nature of Lagrangian

Is there a more fundamental reason for the Classical Lagrangian to be $T-V$ and Electromagnetic Lagrangian to be $T-V+ qA.v$ or is it simply because we can derive Newton's Second Law and Lorentz Force ...
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Velocity-dependent potentials and the dissipation function

From this previous question Charge, velocity-dependent potentials and Lagrangian where the citation is shown at the page 22, §1.5 of the book Classical Mechanics of Goldstein, we read that "an ...
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Lagrangian of a moving charge distribution under action of an eletromagnetic field

We all know that for a single charged particle, we can derive the Lagrangian starting from Lorentz law of force: $$ \mathbf{F}=q(\mathbf{E}+\mathbf{v}\times\mathbf{B}). $$ and by using the ...
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Particle in electromagnetic field Lagrangian

Given the two definitions of $\vec E$ and $\vec B$ by scalar potential $\phi$ and vector potential $\vec A$: $$\vec B=\vec \nabla \times \vec A$$ $$\vec E=-\vec \nabla \phi -\frac 1 c\frac {\partial \...
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Lagrangian of a massive particle in an electromagnetic field

I am trying to find the Lagrangian of a massive particle in an electromagnetic field using the Lorentz force: $$ \vec F = q ( \vec E + \vec v \times \vec B)$$ with $$\vec E = - \nabla \phi - \frac{\...
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From Lagrangian of Electromagnetic field to the Lorentz force? [duplicate]

The dynamics of a charged particle with velocity $\textbf{v}$ in electromagnetic field is dominated by the Lorentz force $$\textbf{F} = q(\textbf{E}+{\textbf{v} \times \textbf{B}}), \tag{1}$$ and ...
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Lorentz force in terms of potential

The Wikipedia page on the Lorentz force states the following: $$\boldsymbol{F}=q\left[- \boldsymbol{\nabla}(\phi-\boldsymbol{v} \cdot \boldsymbol{A})-\frac{d\boldsymbol{A}}{dt}\right]$$ which ...
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