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Meaning of $d\mathcal{L}=-H$ in analytical mechanics?

In Lagrangian mechanics the momentum is defined as: $$p=\frac{\partial \mathcal{L}}{\partial \dot q}$$ Also we can define it as: $$p=\frac{\partial S}{\partial q}$$ where $S$ is Hamilton's principal ...
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Prerequisites for studying Lev Landau Mechanics vol. 1 [closed]

Lev Landau Mechanics vol. 1 dives directly into Lagrangians and Hamiltonians. What do you think are the prerequisites in order to study and grasp it?
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Action-angle variables for three-dimensional harmonic oscillator using cylindrical coordinates

I am solving problem 19 of ch 10 of Goldstein mechanics. The problem is: A three-dimensional harmonic oscillator has the force constant k1 in the x- and y- directions and k3 in the z-direction. Using ...
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Confusing Goldstein Statement about Magnitude of the Lagrangian

On page 345 of Goldstein's Classical Mechanics 3rd Ed., he writes: ...the Hamiltonian is dependent both in magnitude and in functional form upon the initial choice of generalized coordinates. For the ...
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Why can't we treat the Lagrangian as a function of the generalized positions and momenta and vary that? [duplicate]

Some background: In Lagrangian mechanics, to obtain the EL equations, one varies the action (I will be dropping the time dependence since I don't think it's relevant) $$S[q^i(t)] = \int dt \, L(q^i, \...
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What is the benefit of Hamiltonian formalism to promote ($q,\dot{q},t$) from Lagrangian to ($q,p,t$) despite getting the same EOM finally? [duplicate]

Hamiltonian formalism follows $$H(q,p,t)=\sum_i\dot{q_i}p_i-L(q_i,\dot{q}_i,t) $$ and $$\dot{p}=-\frac{\partial H}{\partial q}, \dot{q}=\frac{\partial H}{\partial p} $$ but finally these will get the ...
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Changing variables from $\dot{q}$ to $p$ in Lagrangian instead of Legendre Transformation

This question is motivated by a perceived incompleteness in the responses to this question, which asks why we can't just substitute $\dot{q}(p)$ into $L(q,\dot{q})$ to convert it to $L(q,p)$, which ...
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Regarding varying the coefficients of constraints in the pre-extended Hamiltonian in Dirac method

consider the following variational principle: when we vary $p$ and $q$ independently to find the equations of motion, why aren't we explicitly varying the Coeff $u$ which are clearly functions of $p$ ...
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Poincare-Cartan form of charged particle in electromagnetic field

In the paper by Littlejohn, 1983, the canonical Hamiltonian $h_c$ of a charged particle in electromagnetic field is given by, $$ h_c (\vec{q}, \vec{p}, t) = \frac{1}{2m} \left[ \vec{p} - \frac{e}{c} \...
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Does the Hamiltonian formalism yield more Noether charges than the Lagrangian formalism?

In Lagrangian formalism, we consider point transformations $Q_i=Q_i(q,t)$ because the Euler-Lagrange equation is covariant only under these transformations. Point transformations do not explicitly ...
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Lagrangian and Hamiltonian Mechanics: Conjugate Momentum

I am a physics undergraduate student currently taking a classical mechanics course, and I am not able to understand what conjugate/canonical momentum is (physically). It is sometimes equal to the ...
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Derivation of Hamiltonian by constraining $L(q, v, t)$ with $v = \dot{q}$

I am trying to reconstruct a derivation that I encountered a while ago somewhere on the internet, in order to build some intuition both for $H$ and $L$ in classical mechanics, and for the operation of ...
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Hamiltonian analysis of relational $N$-Particle Dynamics

I am following "A Shape Dynamics Tutorial, Flavio Mercati" (https://arxiv.org/abs/1409.0105), and have problems understanding the hamiltonian formulation of $N$-particle dynamics as sketched ...
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Confusion of variable vs path in Euler-Lagrange equation, Hamiltonian mechanics, and Lagrangian mechanics

In Lagrangian mechanics we have the Euler-Lagrange equations, which are defined as $$\frac{d}{dt}\Bigg(\frac{\partial L}{\partial \dot{q}_j}\Bigg) - \frac{\partial L}{\partial q_j} = 0,\quad j = 1, \...
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How to determine which coordinates to use for calculating the Hamiltonian? [closed]

In my classical mechanics course, I was tasked with finding the Hamiltonian of a pendulum of variable length $l$, where $\frac{dl}{dt} = -\alpha$ ($\alpha$ is a constant, so $l = c - \alpha t$.). I ...
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