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What symmetry causes the Runge-Lenz vector to be conserved?

Noether's theorem relates symmetries to conserved quantities. For a central potential $V \propto \frac{1}{r}$, the Laplace-Runge-Lenz vector is conserved. What is the symmetry associated with the ...
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Why is Noether's theorem important?

I am just starting to wrap my head around analytical mechanics, so this question might sound weird or trivial to some of you. In class I have been introduced to Noether's theorem, which states that ...
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Noether Theorem and Energy conservation in classical mechanics

I have a problem deriving the conservation of energy from time translation invariance. The invariance of the Lagrangian under infinitesimal time displacements $t \rightarrow t' = t + \epsilon$ can be ...
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Invariance of Lagrangian in Noether's theorem

Often in textbooks Noether's theorem is stated with the assumption that the Lagrangian needs to be invariant $\delta L=0$. However, given a lagrangian $L$, we know that the Lagrangians $\alpha L$ (...
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Why does the classical Noether charge become the quantum symmetry generator?

It is often said that the classical charge $Q$ becomes the quantum generator $X$ after quantization. Indeed this is certainly the case for simple examples of energy and momentum. But why should this ...
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Constants of motion vs. integrals of motion vs. first integrals

Since the equation of mechanics are of second order in time, we know that for $N$ degrees of freedom we have to specify $2N$ initial conditions. One of them is the initial time $t_0$ and the rest of ...
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Layman's version of Noether's Theorem (or the intuition behind it)

As part of a science project, I have to give a presentation to my classmates about a topic of my choice (within some constraints) - and I chose symmetry, and it's importance in physics. One important ...
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What symmetry is responsible for the amplitude independence of the period of a simple harmonic oscillator?

In the ICTP lectures of Y. Grossman: Standard Model 1, in about minute 54:00, he leaves an informal homework for the students. He ask to find the symmetry related to the conservation of the amplitude ...
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Why does time-translational symmetry imply that energy (and not something else) is conserved?

I'm trying to understand Noether's theorem from an intuitive perspective. I know that time-translational symmetry implies the conservation of energy. Is it possible to convince oneself that time-...
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(A modification to) Jon Pérez Laraudogoita’s "Beautiful Supertask" — What assumptions of Noether's theorem fail?

I am curious about the following (physically unrealizable) scenario involving a supertask described here: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/spacetime-supertasks/#ClasMechSupe. The original paper is ...
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Why are symmetries in phase space generated by functions that leave the Hamiltonian invariant?

Hamilton's equation reads $$ \frac{d}{dt} F = \{ F,H\} \, .$$ In words this means that $H$ acts on $T$ via the natural phase space product (the Poisson bracket) and the result is the correct time ...
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Noether's theorem and time-dependent Lagrangians

Noether's theorem says that if the following transformation is a symmetry of the Lagrangian $$t \to t + \epsilon T$$ $$q \to q + \epsilon Q.$$ Then the following quantity is conserved $$\left( \...
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How general are Noether's theorem in classical mechanics?

I'm going through the derivations of Noether's theorems and I have several criticisms as to how they are presented in popular sources (note that I'm only referring to classical mechanics here and not ...
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Noether's theorem for space translational symmetry

Imagine a ramp potential of the form $U(x) = a*x + b$ in 1D space. This corresponds to a constant force field over $x$. If I do a classical mechanics experiment with a particle, the particle behaves ...
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Explicit time dependence of the Lagrangian and Energy Conservation

Why is energy (or in more general terms,the Hamiltonian) not conserved when the Lagrangian has an explicit time dependence? I know that we can derive the identity: $\frac{d \mathcal{H}}{d t} = - {\...
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