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Can the Lagrangian be written as a function of ONLY time?

The lagrangian is always phrased as $L(t,q,\dot{q})$. If you magically knew the equations $q(t)$ and $\dot{q}(t)$, could the Lagrangian ever be written only as a function of time? Take freefall for ...
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If the Lagrangian depends explicitly on time then the Hamiltonian is not conserved?

Why is the Hamiltonian not conserved when the Lagrangian has an explicit time dependence? What I mean is that it is very obvious to argue that if the Lagrangian has no an explicit time dependence $L=L(...
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Example in motivation for Lagrangian formalism

I started reading Quantum Field Theory for the Gifted Amateur by Lancaster & Blundell, and I have a conceptual question regarding their motivation of the Lagrangian formalism. They start by ...
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In a four mass six spring vibration, how is the kinetic energy represented

This is from Hobson, Riley, Bence Mathematical Methods, p 322. A spring system is described as follows (they are floating in air like molecules): The equilibrium positions of four equal masses M of a ...
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Sufficient conditions for the energy to be not conserved?

I'm almost embarrased to ask this question because I thought I was by now very confident with classical mechanics. Someone has stated that given a mechanical system with a Lagrangian $L$ s.t. $\frac{...
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Doubt in the expression of Lagrangian of a system [duplicate]

There is a problem given in Goldstein's Classical Mechanics Chapter-1 as 20. A particle of mass $\,m\,$ moves in one dimension such that it has the Lagrangian \begin{equation} L\boldsymbol{=}\...
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General Form for Kinetic Energy Given Velocity Independent Potential such that $\mathcal{H}=E$

Suppose the potential energy is independent of $\dot{q},$ i.e $\frac{\partial V}{\partial\dot{q}}=0$. What is the most general form of the kinetic energy such that the Hamiltonian is the total energy? ...
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Why is total kinetic energy always equal to the sum of rotational and translational kinetic energies?

My derivation is as follows. The total KE, $T_r$ for a rigid object purely rotating about an axis with angular velocity $\bf{ω}$ and with the $i$th particle rotating with velocity $ \textbf{v}_{(rot)...
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Misunderstanding in deriving Newton’s law from Euler-Lagrange equation

When deriving Newton’s law from Euler-Lagrange equation for a particle, the Lagrangian is defined as the kinetic energy minus the potential energy, but the problem is that the kinetic energy is ...
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Gram-Schmidt Orthogonalisation for scalars

I'm reading Chapter 11 (Normal Modes) of Classical Mechanics (5th ed.) by Berkshire and Kibble and came across this on pg. 253: The kinetic energy in terms in terms of the generalised coordinates is ...
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Differentiation of the on-shell action with respect to time

From the on-shell action, we derive the following two: $\frac{\partial S}{\partial t_1} = H(t_1)$, $\frac{\partial S}{\partial t_2} = -H(t_2)$, where $H = vp - L$ is the energy function. I have two ...
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Condition that the Lagrangian energy function $h\equiv\sum_i\frac{\partial L}{\partial\dot q_i}\dot q_i-L$ would be same as the mechanical energy $E$

I'm studying Classical Mechanics by Goldstein. I solved a problem but I have a question. Pro 2.18 A point mass is constrained to move on a massless hoop of radius a fixed in a vertical plane ...
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Lagrangian under time transformation

Given a Lagrangian $$L(q,\dot{q},t)=\sum_{ij}a_{ij}(q)\dot{q}_i\dot{q}_j-V(q_1,q_2,\cdots,q_f)$$show that under a time transformation $t=\lambda T$ ($\lambda$ = constant), the invariance of $\int_1^...
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Is it possible to derive the equations of motion from the energy of a system alone, without knowing canonical coordinates or the Lagrangian?

Is it possible to derive the equations of motion from the energy of a system alone, without knowing canonical coordinates or the Lagrangian? I'm confused about which parts of the fundamental ...
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Difference between the energy and the Hamiltonian in a specific example

The problem is the following: Consider a particle of mass $m$ confined in a long and thin hollow pipe, which rotates in the $xy$ plane with constant angular velocity $\omega$. The rotation axis ...
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