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In QCD there is a breaking of chiral symmetry such that, for the lightest quarks only, we have $$\langle \overline{u} u \rangle = \langle \overline{d} d \rangle = \mathrm{const.}$$ where the constant is zero in the symmetric phase and about (250 MeV)$^3$ in the broken phase.

I've never understood why it wouldn't be something more general, like e.g. $$\langle \overline{u} u \rangle = V_1 \\ \langle \overline{d} d \rangle = V_2 $$ which wouldn't correspond to a surviving isospin symmetry.

Is there some way of understanding from the QCD Lagrangian or path integral why $V_1=V_2$?

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  • $\begingroup$ Our current understanding of spontaneous symmetry breaking in QCD is not very good. You can't directly prove from the lagrangian or path integral why V1 = V2 as far as I am aware. If they were not equal, then the SU(2)xSU(2) symmetry would be badly broken, but we can observe that the isospin symmetry in nuclear physics is a good symmetry, which is exact if you ignore quark masses. So we can confirm $$\langle \overline{u} u \rangle = \langle \overline{d} d \rangle = \mathrm{V}$$ by checking that it implies a spectrum of hadrons consistent with nature. $\endgroup$ Commented Sep 5, 2023 at 23:42
  • $\begingroup$ @AbhinayaSinha It seems this is the answer I was looking for. I guess it must be in the path integral somehow but in some hidden way. $\endgroup$
    – Kris
    Commented Sep 6, 2023 at 16:52
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    $\begingroup$ You understand that Chiral/Axial symmetry $U(1)_A$ and isospin symmetry $SU(2)_{isospin}$ are two orthogonal symmetries, right? So, why do you assume symmetry breaking of one should imply the symmetry breaking of the other? $\endgroup$
    – MadMax
    Commented Sep 7, 2023 at 21:47
  • $\begingroup$ @MadMax The condensates in the OP also break the three non-abelian chiral charges, ex partners of I . He might be imagining QCD treats them similarly, a proven (V-W) impossibility... $\endgroup$ Commented Sep 7, 2023 at 22:08

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Chiral condensation underlying spontaneous chiral symmetry breaking is not manifest in the lagrangian or the functional integral (albeit deeply implicit in the latter): it is a nonperturbative property of the QCD vacuum.

Isospin breaking, by contrast, is largely due to the small quark mass differences in the lagrangian, possibly modified by the QCD vacuum—but it's basically a good (unbroken) symmetry of the vacuum, a just-so property only partially understood. These two types of symmetry logically connect in a tractable manner, below.

If you define the scalar bilinears underlying the chiral condensate, $$S=\bar q (x) q(x) ,\\ S^a =\bar q (x) \frac{\tau^a}{2}q(x), $$ you readily see that Isospin leaves $S$ invariant, but rotates $S^a$, $$[I^a,S^b(x)]= i\epsilon ^{abc} S^c(x)~~~~~~~\implies \\ S^a(x) = -\frac{i}{2}\epsilon^{abc} [I^b,S^c(x)].$$

The vacuum is isospin and translationally invariant (isospin doesn't break dynamically/spontaneously in QCD), so $I^a|0\rangle= 0$, whence $$\langle 0|S^a(x)|0\rangle = \langle 0|S^a(0)|0\rangle =0.$$ Focussing on a=3 directly implies $$ \langle \bar u u\rangle - \langle \bar d d \rangle =0. $$

  • The takeaway is that isospin survives in the face of chiral condensation, as the two condensates must equal each other, whatever their value.

In sharp contrast to the arguments that chiral symmetry must break spontaneously, there isn't, can't be, an analog argument for isospin.

In real life, I is explicitly broken by the small quark mass difference, about 2 orders of magnitude smaller than the scale of the chiral condensate, so isospin is a good symmetry, and chiral symmetry dynamical breaking is largely unaffected by it.

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  • $\begingroup$ Thanks. This is an interesting calculation but I think it answers a different question. What I was interested in was why isospin survives at all after the symmetry breaking. $\endgroup$
    – Kris
    Commented Sep 6, 2023 at 16:54
  • $\begingroup$ ? It's a proof that isospin survives in the face of chiral condensation, as the two condensates must equal each other, whatever their value. Why should it break by more than the explicit mass breaking, that is, dynamically? There are no good arguments it should, in sharp contrast to chiral symmetries. What is your point, really?? $\endgroup$ Commented Sep 6, 2023 at 18:00
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    $\begingroup$ I'm rereading your answer more carefully. I think your comment "but it's basically a good (unbroken) symmetry of the vacuum, a just-so property only partially understood." is the answer I was looking for. In addition your link to the Vafa-Witten paper may be relevant but I can't access that paper currently. $\endgroup$
    – Kris
    Commented Sep 11, 2023 at 10:38

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