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I am trying to find the equation of motion for a particle constrained to move on the surface defined by $S:z=\cos x+\sin y$ under the influence of gravity. I am working in the Cartesian Coordinate system, so the force of gravity is given by $F_g=-mg\hat{k}$ where $\hat{k}$ is a unit vector in the upwards z-direction. Thus, the Lagrangian for this particle would be (I'm not sure if this is correct): $$\mathcal{L}=\frac{1}{2}m\left(\dot{x}^2+\dot{y}^2+\dot{z}^2\right)-mgz+\lambda\left(\cos x+\sin y-z\right)$$ I am using the method of lagrange multipliers to solve for the equations of motion. Is there an easier way? I then used the Euler-Lagrange equations to find my equations of motion: $$\begin{align} m\ddot{x}&=-\lambda\sin x\\ m\ddot{y}&=\lambda \sin y\\ m\ddot{z}&=-mg-\lambda\\ z &=\cos x +\sin y \end{align}$$ Now, I am not really sure what I need to do with the $\lambda$. I solved for it ($\lambda=-m(g+\ddot{z})$, and substituted it in the equations, leading me to these: $$ \begin{align} \ddot{x}&=(g+\ddot{z})\sin x \\ \ddot{y}&=(g+\ddot{z})\sin y \\ m\ddot{z}&=-mg-\lambda \end{align} $$ But I still haven't completely isolated $\lambda$. I then differentiated the constraint with respect to time twice, $$\ddot{z}=-\left(\dot{x}^2\cos x +\dot{y}^2\sin y\right)$$ And I substituted for $\ddot{z}$ in the equation solved for $\lambda$: $$\lambda=-m\left(g-\left(\dot{x}^2\cos x +\dot{y}^2\sin y\right)\right)$$ I then eliminated $\lambda$ in the last equation: $$m\ddot{z}=-mg+m\left(g-\left(\dot{x}^2\cos x +\dot{y}^2\sin y\right)\right)$$ $$\ddot{z}=-g+\left(g-\left(\dot{x}^2\cos x +\dot{y}^2\sin y\right)\right)$$ $$\ddot{z}=-\left(\dot{x}^2\cos x +\dot{y}^2\sin y\right)$$ Here are my questions: Is all of this correct? Do you think there are analytical solutions to these differential equations?

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    $\begingroup$ I thought I did? Isn't that my fourth equation of motion? $\endgroup$
    – Diffusion
    Commented Jan 6, 2018 at 3:30
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    $\begingroup$ There are at least a couple of mistakes in your working. (1) Equation for $m \ddot y$ is wrong. (2) Equation for $\ddot z$ is wrong. $\endgroup$
    – Myridium
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    $\begingroup$ why don't you use coordinates adapted to the constraint instead of the cumbersome Lagrange-multipliers method? $\endgroup$ Commented Jan 6, 2018 at 11:12
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    $\begingroup$ I mean, using coordinates $x$ and $y$ so that $\dot{z}=-\dot{x}\sin x + \dot{y}\cos y$ the Lagrangian reads $\frac{m}{2}[\dot{x}^2(1+ \sin^2x)] + \dot{y}^2(1+ \cos^2 y)] - mg (\cos x + \sin y)$. The equations of motion arise by the associated Euler-Lagrange equations. $\endgroup$ Commented Jan 6, 2018 at 11:16
  • $\begingroup$ Also, I believe your $\ddot{z}$ equation should be: $z'' = $-x''(t) \sin (x(t))+x'(t)^2 (-\cos (x(t)))+y''(t) \cos (y(t))-y'(t)^2 \sin (y(t))$$. $\endgroup$ Commented Jan 6, 2018 at 14:28

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Deriving twice concerning $t$ the smooth constraint gives

$$ -x''(t) \sin (x(t))-x'(t)^2 \cos (x(t))+y''(t) \cos (y(t))-y'(t)^2 \sin (y(t))-z''(t)=0 $$

which jointly with

$$ \left\{ \begin{array}{rcl} -\lambda \sin (x(t))-m x''(t)=0 \\ \lambda \cos (y(t))-m y''(t)=0 \\ -\lambda -g m-m z''(t)=0 \\ \end{array} \right. $$

can be solved to $x''(t),y''(t),z''(t),\lambda$ giving

$$ \left\{ \begin{array}{rcl} x''(t)& = & \frac{\sin (x(t)) \left(-\cos (x(t)) x'(t)^2-\sin (y(t)) y'(t)^2+g\right)}{\cos ^2(y(t))+\sin ^2(x(t))+1} \\ y''(t)& =& \frac{\cos (y(t)) \left(\cos (x(t)) x'(t)^2+\sin (y(t)) y'(t)^2-g\right)}{\cos ^2(y(t))+\sin ^2(x(t))+1} \\ z''(t)& =& \frac{2 \left(\cos (x(t)) x'(t)^2+\sin (y(t)) y'(t)^2-g\right)}{\cos (2 x(t))-\cos (2 y(t))-4}-g \\ \lambda & =& \frac{m \left(\cos (x(t)) x'(t)^2+\sin (y(t)) y'(t)^2-g\right)}{\cos ^2(y(t))+\sin ^2(x(t))+1} \\ \end{array} \right. $$

Attached the movement for initial conditions $x'(0) = y'(0)=0.01, x(0) = 0,y(0)=\pi/2$

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To expand the commend of Valter Moretti, I would also use a set of coordinates which already satisfy the spatial constraints. So I would start by parameterizing the position vector as $$ \mathbf r(t) = \begin{pmatrix} x(t) \\ y(t) \\ z(t) \end{pmatrix} = \begin{pmatrix} x(t) \\ y(t) \\ \lambda \cos(\mu\, x(t)) + \lambda\sin(\mu\, y(t)) \end{pmatrix}, $$ where I introduced the real parameters $\mu$, where $[\mu] = m^{-1}$, and $\lambda$, where $[\lambda] = m$, to take care of the units. By differentiation we get the velocity vector $$ \dot{\mathbf{r}}(t) = \begin{pmatrix} \dot x(t) \\ \dot y(t) \\ -\lambda\mu \sin(\mu\, x(t))\ \dot x(t) + \lambda\mu\cos(\mu\, y(t))\ \dot y (t) \end{pmatrix}. $$ The Lagrangian is then given by $$ \begin{align} L &= T(\dot{\mathbf{r}}) - U(\mathbf r)\\ &=\frac m 2 \dot{\mathbf{r}}^2 - mg\,\mathbf r\cdot \mathbf e _z \\ &=\frac m 2 (\dot x ^2 + \dot y ^2 + \lambda^2\mu^2(\sin^2(\mu x)\dot x^2 - 2\sin (\mu x)\cos(\mu y)\dot x \dot y +\cos^2(\mu x)\dot y^2)\\&\phantom{==} -mg\lambda(\cos(\mu x) + \sin(\mu y )) \end{align} $$ and the equations of motion are then given by $$ \frac{\text{d}}{\text{d}t} \frac{\partial L}{\partial \dot x} - \frac{\partial L}{\partial x} = 0 \quad\text{and}\quad \frac{\text{d}}{\text{d}t} \frac{\partial L}{\partial \dot y} - \frac{\partial L}{\partial y} = 0 $$ The function $z(t)$ is then found by using the solutions $x(t), y(t)$ in $z(t) = \lambda \cos(\mu\, x(t)) + \lambda\sin(\mu\, y(t))$.

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