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We have a wire going around in a helix (just like an inductor) and a constant magnetic field exists along its axis throughout the space.

How do we calculate the flux through it? I can't understand where are the area elements upon which to calculate $\int B \cdot da$.

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  • $\begingroup$ I suppose that by "constant" you mean in space not in time. In this case the proper term is "uniform". $\endgroup$
    – Frobenius
    Commented Oct 19, 2020 at 0:47

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In Figure-01 we have a solenoid of 1 turn. In case of uniform magnetic field $\mathbf{B}$ parallel to the axis of the helical wire the flux through the helical surface is equal to the flux through its projection on the $xy-$plane that is the circle shown. This equality, which is exact and not approximate, is proved in the Figure-03 below.

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In Figure-02 we have a solenoid of 4 turns.

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\begin{equation} \left. \begin{cases} \mathrm d\Phi_{\mathrm S}=\mathbf{B}\boldsymbol{\cdot}\mathrm d \mathbf{S}=\mathrm B\mathrm{ d S}\cos\theta \\ \mathrm d\Phi_{\Sigma}=\mathbf{B}\boldsymbol{\cdot}\mathrm d \boldsymbol{\Sigma}=\mathrm B\mathrm d \Sigma \end{cases}\right\}\quad \stackrel{\mathrm d \Sigma=\mathrm{ d S}\cos\theta }{=\!=\!=\!=\!=\!=\!\Longrightarrow\:}\mathrm d\Phi_{\mathrm S}=\mathrm d\Phi_{\Sigma} \tag{01}\label{01} \end{equation}

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Figure-01.a was added a posteriori in order for the boundary of the helical wire of Figure-01 to be more clear.

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Video : How to calculate flux in a helical wire.

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    $\begingroup$ Well done! Beautiful diagrams. This is what I was trying to explain in my far inferior answer. But although the orange surface 'feels right', I share Yasir Sadiq's uneasiness: why in particular should the the inner edge of the surface not extend beyond the helix axis? $\endgroup$ Commented Oct 19, 2020 at 11:14
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    $\begingroup$ I suspect that I'm having problems visualising properly in 3D. There's nothing you can do about that. Perhaps it will eventually 'click'! Many thanks. $\endgroup$ Commented Oct 19, 2020 at 13:01
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    $\begingroup$ Thanks a lot dear Frobenius and Philip Wood. $\endgroup$
    – Kashmiri
    Commented Oct 21, 2020 at 15:33
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    $\begingroup$ @Frobenius Great diagrams but the complete loop which encloses the closed area that you have coloured blue needs to be completed. So in your Figure - 01 you need to add a vertical and a horizontal blue line. For my attempt at a pictorial answer I had to resort to copper wire and a soap film, Magnetic flux linkage of a solenoid is equal to BAN, but what is A representing?. How did you generate you lovely figures? $\endgroup$
    – Farcher
    Commented Jun 11, 2021 at 7:18
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    $\begingroup$ @Frobenius Which software did you use to produce such lovely diagrams? $\endgroup$
    – Farcher
    Commented Jun 11, 2021 at 9:32
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I assume that you'd have no difficulty working out the flux linked with a closed circular loop if the flux density is uniform and normal to the plane containing the loop.

With a long solenoid (a helix of small pitch) of $n$ turns we usually treat each turn as a circular loop having, in the case you present, a flux $\Phi=\vec B. \vec A =BA$ through it. The flux linkage with the complete solenoid is then taken to be $nBA$.

Treating a helix as a series of closed loops may be thought unsatisfactory. I'm attracted to a bit of topological cleverness that regards the helix not as having $n$ disc-like surfaces, but as a single surface with $n$ folds, each of area very nearly equal to the disc area. Hard to describe and even harder to draw, I'm afraid.

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  • $\begingroup$ Hello Philip, nice to meet again. Yes it's easy to compute flux for closed loops but flux in a helix is absurd to me because there is no definite surface to it imo. $\endgroup$
    – Kashmiri
    Commented Oct 18, 2020 at 17:19
  • $\begingroup$ @Yasir Sadiq Yes indeed. I tried to tackle your concern in my last paragraph, but I freely admit that my explanatory powers aren't up to it! $\endgroup$ Commented Oct 18, 2020 at 17:53

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