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Questions related to the belief that having children is morally wrong.

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A possible counterargument for a theoretical argument in support of antinatalism

I have seen some of the common arguments for anti-natalism, one being David Benatar's asymmetry argument. I am worldbuilding for a science fiction story in which there are some technologically-...
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What is the moral difference between saving a life and creating a life?

In modern society, a lot of people think that giving birth is either wrong if it leads to some suffering or at the very least non-morally optional. However, saving a life is considered good. Why is ...
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Counter arguments to benatar's assymatry argument's defence by Elias Muusavi

Elias Muusavi published a defence of benatar's assymatry https://shorturl.at/juvAF (if you wish to read it) in it they said that the absence of pleasure is "not worse than the presence of ...
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Is it better to exist than not to exist?

Once we already exist we want to continue existing, but before we existed we did not care if we existed or not. So what is better? Is it better to bring new life into existence? And the more we bring, ...
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Moral dilemma: wellbeing vs autonomy

Imagine you are pregnant, or the husband of a mother-to-be. You live in a world which is brutal; relentlessly cruel. Prior to birth, an offer is submitted to you: "Bring your child into the ...
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What are the arguments against thesis of injustice of antinatalism?

If it’s morally wrong to condemn an innocent life to death, then it’s also morally wrong to procreate.Source According to the author, it is unjust to procreate because, when we procreate we condemn ...
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What is the best argument against the argument of consent in antinatalism?

Seana Shiffrin, Gerald Harrison, Julia Tanner and Asheel Singh argue that procreation is morally problematic because of the impossibility of obtaining consent from the human who will be brought into ...
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Unbearable suffering exists. Therefore, is it worth to live? [closed]

The human being does not have full control over their life. In extreme cases, life can turn into pure happiness or unbearable suffering. Moreover, humans can end up in a situation, where escape from ...
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Is there a name for a philosophy that seeks to increase human suffering?

The vast, vast majority of ethic systems seek the minimization of human suffering as a good, considering it ethical or righteous in some way. Even anti-natalists believe this after a fashion, ...
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I saw the following "Baker's Fallacy" in a reddit thread but need help understanding it since I can't find any info on it

Context: I was explaining to a natalist how life/existence is objectively bad because it leads to suffering, pain and death, while nonexistence does not. All he kept saying was that I was committing "...
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How can you soundly argue for antinatalism based on lack of consent?

Of the many arguments that bolster antinatalism, I'm contemplating only consent here: Consent: The fact that life contains suffering might be tolerable under certain circumstances, i.e. if one could ...
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Is Benatar's "asymmetry of pleasure and pain" wrong?

I’ve some doubts regarding the epistyle of David Benatar's thought, the “asymmetry of pleasure and pain”. In Better Never to Have Been: The Harm of Coming into Existence he writes that: Both good ...
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Does antinatalism carry the seeds of its own destruction?

Antinatalists claim that it is immoral to procreate. For instance: David Benatar argues there is an asymmetry between pleasure and pain, which means it would be better for humans not to have ...
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Is antinatalism against any kind of producing new minds (people)?

My argument is "it's better never to be a child". Being transhumanist, I assert it's better for new people to be produced adults right away, skipping the childhood part and believe it will be possible....
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Is Buddhism antinatalist?

I was listening to a discussion with David Benatar, and the point that Buddhism seems to be antinatalist was raised. It seems that people argue this both ways. Can Buddhism be said to be antinatalist? ...
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