Timeline for Is it true that a technological society has to weaken family ties and local communities if it is to function efficiently?
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| S Feb 21 at 11:39 | vote | accept | Nitin Sheokand | ||
| Feb 19 at 16:55 | review | Close votes | |||
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| Feb 19 at 16:36 | comment | added | g s | Since this popped up again and we still don't know the input and output, I have tendered an irrelevant vote-to-close: needs detail, since by arbitrarily selecting inputs and outputs we can make any action necessary for efficient function. Nuking yourself out of existence is "efficient" if your desired output is irradiated craters where your cities once stood. | |
| Feb 18 at 23:35 | comment | added | Scott Rowe | Even a stopped crock is right twice a page. My family of origin did disperse across the country in search of good jobs, I was the one who stayed in my home state the longest. Maybe we should have good jobs everywhere that people might like to live? Often it is the non-work aspects of jobs that make them good: good pay, 'benefits', reasonable hours, not dangerous or abusive, not too far from good housing... All of these could be improved. | |
| Feb 18 at 17:43 | answer | added | Mark_NoBadCake | timeline score: 1 | |
| Feb 9 at 17:44 | comment | added | Robbie Goodwin | Does the passage have any useful meaning? Isn't it summed up by the first sentence 'The breakdown of traditional values to some extent implies the breakdown of the bonds that hold together traditional small-scale social groups'? Almost inarguable, largely because almost all art with no real matter. The claim in Question could be true but not if it relied on that passage for justification; less so if it 'technological society…' depended on that for its definition. | |
| S Feb 8 at 17:38 | vote | accept | Nitin Sheokand | ||
| S Feb 21 at 11:39 | |||||
| Feb 7 at 19:49 | answer | added | ariola | timeline score: 3 | |
| Feb 7 at 17:38 | answer | added | Mark_NoBadCake | timeline score: 1 | |
| Feb 7 at 12:39 | answer | added | frIT | timeline score: 2 | |
| Feb 7 at 8:50 | comment | added | mikeagg | Is Kaczynski conflating technological societies with capitalist societies? It is not hard to imagine a technological society in which family and community is valued. But a capitalist system will always press those without capital to sacrifice family and community for wages. | |
| Feb 6 at 22:30 | comment | added | Kevin Brant | Kaczynski is just making the argument that in the "fast moving, modern world" of today people tend to move around a lot rather than stay small and tightly nit. He's not presenting sociological evidence or studies but rather trying to make aesthetic, subjective, intuitive arguments about human social structures he observes. Most people can empathize with these perceived problems in society and so it is important to identify that these problems might exist, but to objectively determine they really exist is kind of outside of the extent of the manifesto. | |
| S Feb 6 at 19:00 | vote | accept | Nitin Sheokand | ||
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| S Feb 6 at 18:59 | vote | accept | Nitin Sheokand | ||
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| Feb 6 at 15:48 | answer | added | Tom | timeline score: 2 | |
| Feb 6 at 12:44 | comment | added | Sneftel | @NitinSheokand By that definition, essentially all human societies have been "technological societies". So, weakening relative to what? | |
| S Feb 6 at 10:46 | history | suggested | JRE | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Feb 6 at 10:30 | answer | added | AnoE | timeline score: 9 | |
| Feb 6 at 7:40 | review | Close votes | |||
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| Feb 5 at 19:37 | comment | added | DKNguyen | I don't know if it's true but whenever you remove restrictions in one area it tends to give more freedom to optimize another. This goes for everything. | |
| Feb 5 at 17:11 | comment | added | Jack Aidley | This seems to be a sociological or anthropological question rather than a philosophical one. | |
| Feb 5 at 16:05 | review | Suggested edits | |||
| S Feb 6 at 10:46 | |||||
| Feb 5 at 15:25 | history | became hot network question | |||
| Feb 5 at 13:34 | vote | accept | Nitin Sheokand | ||
| S Feb 6 at 18:59 | |||||
| Feb 5 at 13:03 | answer | added | NotThatGuy | timeline score: 15 | |
| Feb 5 at 8:12 | comment | added | Nitin Sheokand | A technological society is one where technology plays a significant role in shaping its culture, social life, and economic development. There is widespread use of technology and dependence on it. It is marked by rapid innovation, globalization and automation. | |
| Feb 5 at 8:11 | comment | added | g s | What output and input are we tracking to decide efficiency? | |
| Feb 5 at 8:09 | answer | added | edelex | timeline score: 9 | |
| Feb 5 at 7:58 | comment | added | Jo Wehler | What is a technological society? Definition? | |
| Feb 5 at 7:25 | history | asked | Nitin Sheokand | CC BY-SA 4.0 |