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Is there hostility to professional philosophy, on this site? Maybe some of you are or were professional philosophers (Geoffrey Thomas e.g.), and it is not surprising, if you look at the way that most philosophy forums evolve, but I suspect that many of the questions and answers on this site implicitly have the attitude that this isn't a site to find out how philosophers have or would respond to your questions, but rather we want to break new ground, do what no professional philosopher has thought of yet (or were unable to answer, whatever).

e.g. Kristian Berry does this in an insightful and aware way, and conifold should get a mention for routinely referring people to where they might find an existing answer to their question, but in general (especially with chat-gpt as it is) there should IMVHO really be an awareness that we are asking here because we cannot ask a professional expert in the field.

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There are broadly two classes of contributors to this site, those who (usually obviously) have some form of higher education in philosophy and logic (it's tough to talk the details of Kripke semantics if you're not in the field), and those who aspire to build knowledge of philosophy without formal education and are often engaged in self-study. There can be quite a gulf between someone who has spent decades reading primary literature and someone who is in high school and maybe has a book they have questions on.

I wouldn't characterize the gulf as hostile, but sometimes the contributors of the different groups work at cross-purposes. Professional philosophers and logicians are loathe to spend any time doing someone's homework questions and are usually quite able of drawing highly technical distinctions. Klöcking's ability to speak to Kant (and in the original German at that) constitutes an example of the latter.

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I suspect that many of the questions and answers on this site implicitly have the attitude that this isn't a site to find out how philosophers have or would respond to your questions, but rather we want to break new ground, do what no professional philosopher has thought of yet

Yes. Many contributors come to the site to DO philosophy, and instead of to ask questions ABOUT those who do philosophy. That debate occurred some time ago and it landed roughly on the policy that we are not here to DO philospohy, we are here to ask ABOUT it. See Friends, we are not philosophers for a review. More recently, I pressed in a series of meta posts to challenge the notion there is a strict line between exercising editorial review with such a post: Friends, Are We Not Philosophers: Is This Place a Bazaar or a Cathedral?. But generally speaking, a somewhat inconsistent norm has been established depending on the turnover of the participants.

For non-professional philosphers (myself included), it can be frustrating to see what appear to be introductory level questions which are simply too simple or poorly articulated be discounted as DOING philosophy rather than poor attempts to ask ABOUT philosophy. For the beginner trying to build comprehension, in particular, they are almost the same activity, because drawing a hard distinction between a question that DOES philosophy and is ABOUT philosophy often relies on some very sophisticated vocabulary or conceptual distinction that isn't available to the beginner.

A contributor can simply choose to walk away and go to the The Philosophy Forum instead. Or they can choose to persist, have questions closed, learn from sometimes direct criticism, and attempt to adapt. If that creates a little friction, then that's part of the reality that everyone has friction with the world.

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  • thanks, that all makes sense, tho idk what you've added to my understanding, which is... illustrative almost. i fit in both groups, having studuied some philsoophy irl and self study
    – andrós
    Commented Jun 11 at 17:23
  • I'm hoping to persuade you that rather than hostility, you should see the discrepancy in terms of frustration. :D There are certainly days where I get frustrated with the haphazard behavior of the site collectively.
    – J D
    Commented Jun 11 at 17:29
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    Also, answers to questions are in a very real sense, not just addressed to you, but also to the community more broadly and can be called on as a resource in the future instead of retyping a response. This is a good question, and if someone is new to the site, this is just the sort of question that will help a beginner to understand the culture here.
    – J D
    Commented Jun 11 at 17:31
  • The main problem is IMHO that, contrary to many other sites of the network, questions here do not explicitly require to try to answer the question by your own research first. This makes people ask questions they could easily google or which, when they start to do their own reading to find an answer, are realised as nonsensical or using words in ways that are different from what they thought would be the meaning.
    – Philip Klöcking Mod
    Commented Jun 11 at 18:23
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    @PhilipKlöcking That seems a fair point to be made. With a low cost for asking a bad question, and a low cost for providing a shoddy answer, there isn't much to disincentivize the practice.
    – J D
    Commented Jun 11 at 19:03

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