Timeline for What are the “spam” and “rude or abusive” (offensive) flags, and how do they work?
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Jul 6 at 21:16 | history | edited | Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Jun 28 at 19:21 | history | edited | Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Combine the two bullets into one to reduce redundancy. Also, the heading begins with "if", which this bullet doesn't follow the formatting of.
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Jun 28 at 16:18 | comment | added | Shadow Wizard | @T.J.Crowder four now, it was six back when you asked, yes. What you remember about three is three close votes only, in some of the sites. | |
Jun 28 at 14:19 | history | edited | Makyen | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Move recoverable offensive posts to under when not to use R/A flags; add attempts to bypass the question quality filter as not flagged as R/A.
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Jun 28 at 14:03 | history | rollback | Makyen |
Rollback to Revision 99
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Jun 28 at 5:34 | history | edited | Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Clarify, as posts that don't qualify for the flag can otherwise not be "valid" if they violate other site rules, and a later bullet says to not use the flag in that case
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Apr 10 at 21:14 | history | edited | Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Elaborate on the given link
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Mar 25 at 6:35 | history | edited | Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
This has been broken for years and is unlikely to ever get fixed
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Sep 15, 2023 at 5:20 | history | edited | CPlus | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
I have red-flagged questions which later get self deleted, and the flags are still pending; declined red flags can become disputed
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Jun 8, 2023 at 0:52 | history | edited | Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
https://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/63742488#63742488
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Feb 14, 2023 at 18:21 | comment | added | V2Blast | @SonictheAnonymousHedgehog: Mostly for consistency – since it's an FAQ post, as you point out, it doesn't really make sense to have a bunch of different users' referral IDs scattered throughout the links in the post, in my opinion. (But also, there's a mod-only Help Center page that references this FAQ; I wanted to keep the referral links out of that page, and I wanted to make it easier to maintain that page without having to replace all the links again in the future.) | |
Feb 14, 2023 at 1:14 | comment | added | Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog | @V2Blast Just wondering why you removed the link referrals. Are they not appropriate to put inside FAQ posts? | |
Feb 14, 2023 at 0:45 | history | edited | V2Blast | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Feb 14, 2023 at 0:38 | history | edited | V2Blast | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
minor copyediting; fixed formatting for consistency
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Feb 11, 2023 at 8:00 | history | edited | Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Feb 11, 2023 at 8:00 | history | rollback | Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog |
Rollback to Revision 90 - First, it's already indicated as being retroactive earlier in the paragraph, so it's redundant. Second, it most definitely penalizes the flagger: the number used to calculate the user's daily flag limit goes down and it counts toward a flag ban.
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Feb 11, 2023 at 7:09 | history | edited | Cody Gray - on strike | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
A declined flag doesn't penalize the flagger.
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Jan 2, 2023 at 14:17 | comment | added | T.J. Crowder | It really takes six spam flags to delete a spam question? For some reason I thought it was three. | |
Nov 21, 2022 at 1:31 | comment | added | starball | @animuson does a comment which only contains a bunch of question marks fall under the "gibberish/abuse-of-system" category? | |
Jul 19, 2022 at 18:23 | history | edited | V2Blast | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Jun 22, 2022 at 21:41 | history | edited | Catija | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
these flags no longer age out.
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Jun 12, 2022 at 19:50 | history | edited | Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Jan 17, 2022 at 22:38 | history | edited | Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Looking at an ancient bug report /q/65621, this was never true for spam flags: it seems the original writer copied it straight from offensive flag info without checking. There's a bug report that it's not applying to offensive flags today, but FAQs are meant to explain the design rather than bugs.
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Sep 21, 2021 at 6:35 | comment | added | Mari-Lou A Слава Україні | Re. edit: Isn't a question about the origin of a rude word distinct from questions about code that uses offensive and vulgar words for filtering out profanities. These two types of questions would never appear on the same site. | |
Sep 20, 2021 at 20:48 | history | edited | Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Sep 20, 2021 at 20:39 | history | edited | Machavity | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Added some non-flag examples
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Dec 20, 2020 at 19:45 | history | edited | Makyen | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Make the sentence about what is spam more clear that the "and" applies to the whole thing.
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Dec 20, 2020 at 19:34 | history | edited | Makyen | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Be more clear about what needs to be disclosed. Make it easier to quote this post and have a complete concept, rather than have it in disjoint locations.
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Oct 6, 2020 at 15:10 | history | edited | GlorfindelMod | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
the example was rather unfriendly
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Jun 24, 2020 at 0:46 | history | edited | Donald Duck | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Jun 24, 2020 at 0:30 | history | edited | Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Jun 3, 2020 at 13:30 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
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Jan 27, 2020 at 20:13 | history | edited | Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Jul 24, 2019 at 16:24 | history | edited | GlorfindelMod | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
changes will go live today, cf. https://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/51139228
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Jun 27, 2019 at 16:30 | history | edited | Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Jun 27, 2019 at 14:15 | history | edited | Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Jun 27, 2019 at 12:53 | history | edited | User that hates AI | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Jun 27, 2019 at 9:46 | history | edited | GlorfindelMod | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
cf. https://meta.stackexchange.com/revisions/330025/2, the # of flags doesn't matter
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Jan 14, 2019 at 15:08 | history | edited | iBug says Reinstate Monica | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Jan 14, 2019 at 14:07 | history | edited | iBug says Reinstate Monica | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
problems arose in https://meta.stackoverflow.com/q/365717
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Dec 18, 2018 at 18:55 | history | edited | Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Aug 30, 2018 at 0:33 | history | edited | Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Let's not swallow the whole sentence into the link
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Aug 29, 2018 at 23:07 | history | edited | Bhargav Rao | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Many many users were flagging completely valid posts as spam because of that. Reworded the sentence by posting the second sentence before the first.
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Aug 2, 2018 at 20:02 | history | edited | Bhargav Rao | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Related reading: https://chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/41570/conversation/shogs-point-on-flagging-gibberish and https://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/39342385#39342385
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May 29, 2018 at 6:52 | comment | added | Petter Friberg | I'm also curious why "However, the disclosure must happen in the post itself; the author’s username or profile do not count.", specially since this is the reason the spam flags are applied (hence people understand the OP is affiliated since OP's name clearly state it's, but since not indicated in answer, it breaks the rules of this post.) | |
May 29, 2018 at 6:46 | comment | added | Petter Friberg | @animuson The "lacks disclosure" introduced in revision 53 has now become a reason to state that a spam flag is valid (not matter what the content of the post is). Hence a post with a link to your github page or even this answer a spam flag according to this guidance is valid. Is this the intention? I had the impression that we should edit in attribution if post is useful, and if it's just a link to a related blog post (hence blog answering question) flag as NAA. | |
Apr 8, 2018 at 14:05 | comment | added | duplode | @ɪʙᴜɢ This edit you have done is being discussed at Meta Stack Overflow. It would be helpful to have your input about it over there (in particular, about what you have based it on). | |
Mar 14, 2018 at 16:09 | history | edited | iBug says Reinstate Monica | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Mar 14, 2018 at 15:54 | history | edited | Ilmari Karonen | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
add a note about *why* removing spam links from otherwise seemingly valid posts is a bad idea, based on the linked thread
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Jan 15, 2018 at 15:15 | history | edited | Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Jan 15, 2018 at 5:28 | history | edited | iBug says Reinstate Monica | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Spelling; grammar; layout.
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Jan 15, 2018 at 1:07 | history | edited | Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Jan 15, 2018 at 0:47 | history | edited | Bhargav Rao | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Jan 9, 2018 at 3:53 | history | edited | iBug says Reinstate Monica | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Dec 20, 2017 at 20:19 | history | edited | Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
This most definitely happens on other sites. I saw it happen on MSE a few days ago.
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S Oct 21, 2017 at 7:26 | history | suggested | CommunityBot | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
There is now a true difference between spam and rude flags
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Oct 6, 2017 at 15:30 | history | edited | Null | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Sep 29, 2017 at 12:01 | history | edited | Wrzlprmft | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Sep 29, 2017 at 10:38 | comment | added | Wrzlprmft | @Undo: Okay, but that’s nothing we need to confuse the average user reading this FAQ with. I slapped a for moderators before that notice, so everybody else knows that they can skip it. | |
Sep 29, 2017 at 10:32 | history | edited | Wrzlprmft | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Sep 27, 2017 at 14:38 | comment | added | Undo | @Wrzl Issue comes when moderators see this and start declining stuff. It's difficult to coordinate a 20+ person team, and if a blurb at the top of a commonly linked answer helps prevent some mSO drama I'd say it's worth it. | |
Sep 27, 2017 at 14:35 | comment | added | Wrzlprmft | @Undo: I understand this, but that doesn’t mean that anybody following this advice will run into problems. Linking that post (at the very top) gives the impression that the situation is more complicated than it is, which is unnecessarily confusing. | |
Sep 27, 2017 at 14:33 | comment | added | Undo | Mostly, Stack Overflow has jettisoned the difference between spam and R/A flags @Wrzl. For example, this answer prohibits spam flags on gibberish, while SO doesn't care. The wording clarity comment is valid, but I can't come up with better wording right now. Mostly hoping folks click the link. | |
Sep 27, 2017 at 14:24 | comment | added | Wrzlprmft | @Undo: I fail to see your point of the disclaimer you added on the top. The linked post doesn’t invalidate the advice given in this answer the slightest. Also permissive […] guidance on use of flags can be misunderstood in that more posts are permitted, i.e., there are stricter criteria as what can be red-flagged. | |
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Aug 3, 2017 at 17:12 | history | edited | iBug says Reinstate Monica | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Clarify
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Jun 22, 2017 at 22:04 | history | edited | Braiam | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
if you are going to quote wikipedia, at least do it right!
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S May 5, 2017 at 18:40 | history | suggested | CommunityBot | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
add note about prior behavior so that people searching for it find it here at this FAQ
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Feb 28, 2017 at 21:06 | history | edited | Shog9 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
this implied something that is no longer true (and was always irrelevant)
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Feb 20, 2017 at 20:17 | history | edited | Pops | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
update to how the system treats spam vs rude/abusive; minor touch-ups to other places
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S Sep 19, 2016 at 5:58 | history | suggested | CommunityBot | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
better outline the difference
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Aug 4, 2016 at 7:45 | history | edited | Wrzlprmft | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Aug 4, 2016 at 7:27 | history | edited | Wrzlprmft | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Being more specific about “abusive of the system or community”. Flags can now be retreated. Consistent formatting. Minor stuff.
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Jul 31, 2016 at 12:36 | history | edited | Gilles 'SO- stop being evil' | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
the “offensive” flag has been renamed to “rude or abusive”
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Apr 8, 2016 at 22:23 | comment | added | Petter Friberg | Be careful on "gibberish posts" Shog9 instructions is that on user with reasonable posts elsewhere "flag will be declined because it'd mess them up for what was probably an innocent mistake." | |
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Feb 2, 2016 at 7:08 | history | edited | Shadow Wizard | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Adding official stamp so people won't keep removing this.
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Feb 2, 2016 at 6:30 | history | rollback | Braiam |
Rollback to Revision 35
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Apr 28, 2015 at 17:51 | history | edited | bmike | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
please don't flag gibberish as spam or offensive
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Apr 14, 2015 at 6:37 | history | edited | Shadow Wizard | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Clarify 3 flags removing from front page, adding another consequence
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Feb 25, 2015 at 15:17 | comment | added | hvd | @animuson Thanks. I've edited to hopefully make it clear that "offensive" is supposed to cover both meanings of "abuse". | |
Feb 25, 2015 at 15:16 | history | edited | hvd | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
clarify "abuse"
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Feb 25, 2015 at 15:14 | comment | added | animuson StaffMod | @hvd Here's the post I was referring to. It's since been edited to also include the VLQ flag (though the NAA flag will also do the same thing now). There's no harm in letting it run through the review queues instead, but nuking it as offensive will throw them into the system filters and blocks to prevent them posting more junk in the future. | |
Feb 25, 2015 at 15:08 | comment | added | hvd | @animuson That seems fair enough, but then the part of this answer that covers "Offensive" could use some cleaning up as well. I'll see if I can think of clearer wording (no promises) to edit, or if you can think of some, please do edit. | |
Feb 25, 2015 at 15:07 | comment | added | animuson StaffMod | @hvd We've established in past discussions that abuse of the system qualifies under the offensive flag. Posting gibberish that doesn't mean anything is definitely abusing the system. | |
Feb 25, 2015 at 15:06 | comment | added | hvd | @animuson Doesn't "It contains only gibberish, such as "fsdguejgkfdlk". Use the 'offensive' flag for these cases, or flag 'for moderator attention' with a custom explanation if it requires more detail." contradict "As a rule of thumb, if you can't justify something as being hate speech, or abuse, you shouldn't mark the post as offensive. Instead, you should down-vote the post."? That doesn't seem like abuse, at least not abuse in the meaning normally associated with "offensive". (Before your edit, this answer said to flag gibberish as NAA.) | |
Feb 24, 2015 at 19:49 | history | edited | user259867 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
There is no "warning message" for offensive flags. Also, mentioned the possibility of editing
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Dec 14, 2014 at 19:33 | history | edited | Brad Larson | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
The wording was incorrect about offensive flags, implying that they don't feed the anti-trolling system.
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Jun 27, 2014 at 14:45 | history | edited | Monica Cellio | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
spam-handling is real now, not just a future idea
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Apr 23, 2014 at 13:38 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
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Aug 20, 2013 at 18:09 | history | edited | animusonStaffMod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Combining them, as a lot of the information is the exact same.
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Aug 25, 2012 at 14:41 | history | edited | Jonathan Leffler | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Continuing the improvement of the 'when not to use the Spam flag' section.
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Aug 24, 2012 at 7:12 | history | edited | Jonathan Leffler | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Distinguish between answers and questions for the 'not marked' cases.
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Aug 23, 2012 at 15:56 | history | edited | dbr | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Aug 22, 2012 at 17:46 | history | edited | Jonathan Leffler | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
suggest flagging as 'not an answer'.
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Aug 22, 2012 at 17:36 | history | edited | Jonathan Leffler | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Feb 6, 2012 at 18:12 | history | edited | ErikE | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Nov 16, 2011 at 11:01 | history | edited | Time Traveling Bobby | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Cleared confusion from here: http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/112384/flagging-as-spam-reduces-an-answers-score-shouldnt-that-also-reduce-the-user
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Jun 25, 2011 at 19:46 | history | edited | Shog9 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Mar 4, 2011 at 10:52 | history | edited | Piskvor left the building | CC BY-SA 2.5 |
Verified by observation: every spam flag adds one (1) downvote to the post in question.
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Jul 22, 2010 at 17:41 | history | edited | Andreas Bonini | CC BY-SA 2.5 |
see http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/56223/has-there-been-an-uptick-in-spam-votes-against-established-questions/56224#56224
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Jul 22, 2010 at 14:46 | history | edited | Grace NoteStaffMod | CC BY-SA 2.5 |
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